[DISCUSS] What do you think about Karma, THE...

[quote=Jubeja]One fun thing is Mantra then cast Soul Shield on your minion they're hiding behind. BOOM, what?[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=ProAsylum] ... smartcast is the key for karma :O just harrass the enemy to low hp... then use [[mantra]] .. flash then [[soul shield]] and Q + ignite. GG [/quote] If the enemy is low HP and you're not, you're doing something wrong. You want to "lose" trades as an AP mid so they dive you and you escape with a double kill against mordekaiser. And, yes. Smartcast has always been good on every champ ever.[/quote]

[quote=ProAsylum][quote=Lugignaf] [quote=ProAsylum] ... smartcast is the key for karma :O just harrass the enemy to low hp... then use [[mantra]] .. flash then [[soul shield]] and Q + ignite. GG [/quote] If the enemy is low HP and you're not, you're doing something wrong. You want to "lose" trades as an AP mid so they dive you and you escape with a double kill against mordekaiser. And, yes. Smartcast has always been good on every champ ever. [/quote] lol. so playing karma i have to drop to 100 hp and then DK?[/quote]

[quote=lifebaka][quote=ProAsylum] lol. so playing karma i have to drop to 100 hp and then DK? [/quote] I don't see why not. As long as you can Mantra + shield yourself quickly, they are going to way underestimate how much damage your passive gives when your HP is that low. Karma can bait extremely well, and her two damage skills are both AoE. Her lack of hard CC is what's most likely to make getting double kills against the opposing mid and jungler a problem.[/quote]

[quote=ProAsylum][quote=lifebaka] [quote=ProAsylum] lol. so playing karma i have to drop to 100 hp and then DK? [/quote] I don't see why not. As long as you can Mantra + shield yourself quickly, they are going to way underestimate how much damage your passive gives when your HP is that low. Karma can bait extremely well, and her two damage skills are both AoE. Her lack of hard CC is what's most likely to make getting double kills against the opposing mid and jungler a problem. [/quote] maybe because your first aim is to kill enemy and not getting low waiting to get dived. lol[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][quote=ProAsylum] ... smartcast is the key for karma :O just harrass the enemy to low hp... then use [[mantra]] .. flash then [[soul shield]] and Q + ignite. GG [/quote] ALBERT EINSTEIN EVERYONE! [quote=ProAsylum] maybe because your first aim is to kill enemy and not getting low waiting to get dived. lol [/quote] your first aim is to farm, not to get kills, but that's okay, i'll go to EUW so you can show me a "real good" karma[/quote]

[quote=PerpetualDuplicity]^^ The douchery is becoming extreme.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][quote=PerpetualDuplicity] ^^ The douchery is becoming extreme. [/quote] Incase you haven't met me before... hi, I'm Mooninites[/quote]

[quote=Sujing]I haven't played Karma at all. However, I do want to and I plan on getting her sooner or later. I know that she has hidden potential and hopefully the remake that everyone else wants could make her a better champion in the eyes of us players.[/quote]

[quote=albableat][quote=ProAsylum] 1. she can go to ANY lane ( top, mid , bot ). 2. she can has a lot of sustain due to [[Heavenly Wave]] AND [[Soul Shield]] 3. she got a lot of damage with a pretty good scaling 4. she got a nice movement buff/debuff using [[Spirit Bond]] 5. because of her passive [[inner Flame]] she doesn't need AP early game and can rush chalice of harmony + getting [[frozen heart]] in mid game. 6. she can bait a lot of enemies with low hp because of her [[inner Flame]] , [[Heavenly Wave]] and [[Soul Shield]] there are just way more PROS than CONS to play [[Karma]]. but she is totally underplayed in my eyes, don't you think so, too? [/quote] 1) Not really. She is a terrible support, definitely, since she requires scaling to be really useful. Top Karma isn't really good either, but that's imo. 2) True, but many champs have some sort of sustain. 3) Yes. And that's the problem 4) Since when is 10% called big buff/debuff? Don't forget, you're only putting 1 point into W early. Kinda unfair comparing to Lulu's 80% Q_Q 5) True. And that's why mid [[karma]] is pretty damn lovely and why I await the new retarded item that will make Chalice 1000000000% more viable. 6) Meh. You get used to the fact that Karma shields herself for another health bar after bumping your face at it for several first times. But yea, pretty cool fact. Yes, Karma should be played more. But to make her really viable Riot either needs to tweak the numbers and ratios (to make her viable as support) or reduce the mantra recharge timer/allow for more charge (to make her viable as an AP Carry).[/quote]