third champion idea by caucheka.

[quote=caucheka]first off, thanks for the input. [quote=Victumi] So at level 18 or.... 9 I guess since you can max a skill at 9 with...lets say you're unfed and only have 50 ap. you do... 125 + 20x 2.... that just screams op. 300 damage with a 3 second cooldown at level 9. [/quote] yes, but at lvl 9 karthus with the same ap would have 275 damage (120 + 35% ap(17.5) x2(if hits one target) on his q with a 1 second cd. but his didn't always hit so point taken. well i didn't want to do a lot of math but here it goes. so in 7 seconds (as thats how long e damage lasts if they take max) 300 ap, lets say his target is poisoned by his passive but that requires different math so ignoring that damage for now(its probably pretty miniscule) he's dealing 490 with q (125 + 120 x2) w but that would deal 250 damage (160 + 90) e dealing.. 630 damage(30 + 60 x 7 seconds). lastly his ult, dealing 1330 damage (100 + 90 x 7) and well he'd hit with q again in this time so thats another 490 so thats.. 3190 damage, not counting on magic pen or magic resist. fuck. ok so.. q up to 4 seconds, with 35% ap now. w is fine really. i see no problems with that. e is a little bit big. 15% ap would be doing 105 less damage at 300 ap. his ult is really where the opness comes. 20% ap would bring that down from 1330 to 1120, so yeah. also nerfing? mana cost.[/quote]

[quote=Pokimoki]Ultimate should add durability effects on him like Armor and MR or HP. :3[/quote]

[quote=Victumi]No problem, happy to help or... try to help. You see my point though right? and I missed the toggle ultimate, sorry. I agree with poki about the beefing him during his ult. Why do his moves have to be exactly 15% or 20%? Why not do 16% or 17% or something (if its just lack of wanting to do the math its all good XD just curious) The W looks good,the E is AoE right? It can't be very big if its droping 500 or so damage and a slow and an attack speed reduction. If you nerfed 3/4ths of his moves and beefed him he'd be like a seriously scary AP Nasus. Mass Nuke, I'd play him he seems badass.[/quote]

[quote=B-Wong][quote=Victumi] Why do his moves have to be exactly 15% or 20%? Why not do 16% or 17% or something [/quote] I think there should be more ratios that just seem random like this because of the fact that it'd dictate balance a lot more precisely than 20 or 30%, etc.[/quote]

[quote=Victumi][quote=B-Wong] [quote=Victumi] Why do his moves have to be exactly 15% or 20%? Why not do 16% or 17% or something [/quote] I think there should be more ratios that just seem random like this because of the fact that it'd dictate balance a lot more precisely than 20 or 30%, etc. [/quote] It still may balance out the skills so if he was real he wouldn't be OP or UP 5% can make a ton of difference. IE instead of going from 25 down to 20% it could be 22% or 21% so it'd still be powerful but not insanely OP. I'm also confused I saw like Anivia's ult on the page before. So why x7 on his ult in the math? And I like the fact that he's got web traps. That's pretty sick.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]because i have ocd and they have to be divisible by 5. and you asked about his damage output, so i calculated as if they took full damage from e, which would mean they take damage for 7 seconds from it. so i was calculating for 7 seconds of damage. hence why i used q twice.[/quote]

[quote=Victumi]Edit: Misread the previous statement. disregard this message sorry.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]ok. i didn't even get to see it so no harm done. and yes i know if this was a real champion it would be hard to keep him balanced with ratios that are divisible by 5%. i just think it looks noice.[/quote]

[quote=Dante Rebellion]lol for some reason I feel if you give this character a Manamune he will crush all that stand against against him and sweet victory[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]why give him a manamune, when you have the option to get an archangels staff? huh? huh?? lol if boots of swiftness, 2 archangels, and 3 manamunes make him the best hybrid ever[/quote]