Duo bot lane setups and what to counter them with!

[quote=Slappiz]I'm about to add a new section for in a counter pick guide somewhere on the internet (huehue) and I cba to do all the work myself :P haha Rules: It has to be a legit AD Carry and Support. [[Urgot]]+[[Leona]] or [[Ashe]]+[[Soraka]] etc. Bring up as many suggestion as possible and add some valid information to it, we need to cover them all ^^[/quote]

[quote=IceCreamy]So you want: AD Carry A + Support B counter AD Carry C + Support D ? Or just generally good lanes?[/quote]

[quote=Slappiz][quote=IceCreamy] So you want: AD Carry A + Support B counter AD Carry C + Support D ? Or just generally good lanes? [/quote] AD Carry A + Support B counter AD Carry C + Support D[/quote]

[quote=IceCreamy]Okay... it is a bit hard. I mean I can tell you [[Ezreal]] counters [[Leona]], but it does not really matter which teammates they have alongside them...[/quote]

[quote=Slappiz][quote=IceCreamy] Okay... it is a bit hard. I mean I can tell you [[Ezreal]] counters [[Leona]], but it does not really matter which teammates they have alongside them... [/quote] But if you add [[Alistar]] instead against [[Ezreal]] you drastically improved your chance of killing him. Since he cant really dodge that jump+knockup combo if we assume that [[alistar]] does it right. We kinda need to sort this out ^^[/quote]

[quote=IceCreamy]Well yeah but then it still does not matter which AD Carry [[Alistar]] is supporting...[/quote]

[quote=caucheka][quote=Slappiz] [[Ashe]]+[[Sorka]] etc. [/quote] [[ashe]]+[[sorka]] real stronk. riot plz nerf sorka.[/quote]

[quote=Slappiz][quote=IceCreamy] Well yeah but then it still does not matter which AD Carry [[Alistar]] is supporting... [/quote] Ofc it does, you need a burst champion like [[Graves]] or [[Corki]]. Because [[Miss Fortune]] wouldn't be able to kill him in 1 knock up.[/quote]

[quote=Klausenheim]This gets complicated real fast. I will say this: You can't really hard counter a smart [[Graves]] + [[Soraka]] combo, because their worst case scenario is sitting right next to turret and farming forever. They never need to go B, and anytime you force a trade you are going to come out the loser. It is the most tedious lane ever invented. The closest "counter" I know of is picking [[Kog'Maw]] and just outfarming them. If you can CS and sustain yourself adequately, late game Kog will make it all OK. One other thing: What AD carries do you guys think counter Ez in lane?[/quote]

[quote=Slappiz][quote=Klausenheim] This gets complicated real fast. I will say this: You can't really hard counter a smart [[Graves]] + [[Soraka]] combo, because their worst case scenario is sitting right next to turret and farming forever. They never need to go B, and anytime you force a trade you are going to come out the loser. It is the most tedious lane ever invented. The closest "counter" I know of is picking [[Kog'Maw]] and just outfarming them. If you can CS and sustain yourself adequately, late game Kog will make it all OK. [/quote] I would probably go with [[Taric]] and [[Urgot]] / [[Tristana]] against that combo. [quote=Klausenheim] One other thing: What AD carries do you guys think counter Ez in lane? [/quote] AD [[Kennen]] actually is a legit counter against [[Ezreal]] in lane.[/quote]