I don't know if this was brought up before but going to ask anyway. Your jungle lee sin build is basically trash. When you will get enough money for that items you will probably be too squishy to do anything, that's why you build tank on junglers, cause you have a very limited gold income. I found the lane build to be fairly decent so won't talk about that much.

Also this line is intriguing me:



With your jungle build be sure you won't be able to do **** in late game since you probably won't have the damage to kill a carry nor the tankiness to hold the front line.



I don't know what you understand by deadly but I consider the carries to be the more deadly ones, instead of kicking them to safety shouldn't you rather try to kill/kick them into your team?
Really late game lee sin depends on whether he was lane or jungle, the lane lee sin should take the role of killing enemy carries whilst jungle lee sin should peel for his own carries by using E and R.

By the way wriggle's is really far from worth upgrading madreds right now unless you got an early lead.



In what world does that happen?

In the jungle match up section you included mostly season 2 junglers, consider adding the junglers that are strong this season for example: j4, hecarim, xin zhao, zac and so on; people check that section to know how to play against what is being played at the moment, not 6 months ago.

Finaly, I don't know, there are some things in this guide that make me have doubts about your ability to team fight/knoweledge of the game, you seem to know the lee sin mechanics though but they are easier to write on paper than they are to use.

How viable is Elixir of Fortitude for Lee as a starting item with the cost change in the new patch?

How can you have 1 point in block without 2 in unyielding, in your top lane lee cheat sheet.

Read the comment above yours :)

Can Lee be played as a support?

If so, is he good at it?

Support Lee Sin is nowhere near as viable as other supports as he simply cannot assist his partner with anything other than the shield, meaning that if you were to play against a pokey bottom lane ( Sona, Varus) you would be completely zoned out after taking a little bit of damage. However, a very aggressive early game can lead to a very dominant lane as Lee Sin has extreme burst damage and combined with all his dashes he can take out squishy early gamers such as Supports and ADCs very quickly. It could work but I simply have never tried it. Good luck :P

This is THE guide for Lee. I dont know bout cha' jungle but the lane guide is darn good. Gotta love Lee Sin in S3 now. So strong, hard to dive really also in top lane by enemy.
Warmogs armor, bloodthirster, Last Whisper, Mercury's Treads + Alacrity (or homeguard etc), Guardian Angel and Sunfire Cape. There is a darn darn good epic lee sin build.

Hey, I read your guide for my first time jungle with Lee, which..well, the guide itself probably could have helped me fine, but there's no ability sequence for the damage jungle build, so I was totally lost XD looking back, it is apparent that I could have found out what to do by checking the tanky jungle build, but alas, I did not ;P

I was wondering about something though, something stupid I'm sure, but..do you suppose it'd be possible to play Lee as support? sounds ridiculous I'm sure, but his Safeguard ability is actually 2nd only to Janna's shield ability(though her's doesn't shield 2 people), it's scaling/base shield amount is above all but her's I think, and it's cooldown and duration are again, above most if not all.(plus he can use it infinitely since he uses energy) Could easily bush check with his abilities, and help your ADC by latching onto the enemy while you're both shielded.... it's probably crazy, but eh, it just came to mind.(plus his ability to protect the carry is pretty great, shield carry, slow enemy, kick enemy away) Sorry to bother ya about it, but I like to run my ideas by good summoners who know the champ in question well ^_^

Why isn't this the top rated guide? haha, Big thanks just went 12/0 as Jungle Lee :)

You totally copied my name :P

When it comes to champion guides it sometimes doesn't matter about what ELO you are or any of that. I for one haven't played a lot of ranked in NA because it is much harder to do very well with 250 ping. But I do play a LOT of Lee Sin. Even if HotShotGG were to write a guide on Lee Sin i doubt he'd have as many games with Lee Sin as me because he doesn't actually play a lot of Lee Sin however he is very very high ELO. See where I'm getting at?

Jungle Lee is no where near as fun as Lane Lee. Jungle Lee you have like next to no damage throughout the whole game and you're not even as tanky as other champions and have nowhere near as much utility as let's say Amumu or Xin Zhao. The whole thing revolves around your early ganks being successful, if they fail you fall behind VERY hard. Sunfire Aegis is a really awesome item and yes I too like the flaming effects :").

If you get experienced playing Top Lee Sin you can always try counterjungling if you are the Blue side. All you need is an early Wriggle's Lantern (It's a good item on you anyways) and wahat you do is everytime you recall you grab a couple of wards and ward the enemy jungle, whenever the enemy jungler isn't around you push your lane all the way to tower and then back off so they lose vision of you. During the time they clear the wave you go in the enemy jungle and steal Golems, Wraiths and Red Buff if its there. These are M5 tactics (Gambit Gaming).

There is no such thing as a "Correct" build. You build whatever is necessary. If your lane opponent is Rumble and the enemy AP Mid is fed there is no reason why you should be rushing a Sunfire Aegis. However when you're top lane it gives you the flexibility between choosing to build damage and choosing to build tankiness/utility. Unfortunately in the current meta there is very little space for junglers building damage other than early game which really takes away a lot of the fun. This was a long *** response and I hope you understood at least part of what I was saying ^^