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[quote=Toshabi]The thing about Canoas is the fact that he is well researched and prepared to defend one side of an argument. It doesn't matter whether or not his side is right or wrong, the fact is he is prepared to defend his topic. The topic can be something like "What is 1+1?". Canoas says 3, you say 2. You can argue with Canoas, but chances are, he has a plethora of points ready to use at the drop of the hat when you explain your reasoning to why you believe 1+1= 2. Being prepared and well researched on a position is surely a threat to be reckoned with. If you don't believe me, just take a look at politics. I personally believe canoas plays the devils advocate at times, even when he knows he's wrong, just to make the other person arguing look like a fool for having a tool's knowledge and being poorly researched on the very position they're trying to uphold. Canos learned well from his critical thinking and debate classes. [quote=DuffTime] If you were single I'd propose. [/quote] BACK OFF YOU PERFECTLY CHISELED-FACED CREETON! >:^[[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]The problem is when a person who is well prepared truly begins to believe that they [i]know[/i] everything. There is nothing to concede, there is never a good point they haven't thought of. Even when points being made are legitimate, there isn't even reason to discuss them with a person who believes they know everything. When you've decided with 100% certainty that 1+1=3, it doesn't even matter if you're actually wrong. You are convinced that your interpretation of the topic at hand is the correct and factual one. Now, couple that mentality with a sassy and smart-alecky attitude, and a general sense of superiority/willingness to talk down to people, and you have quite literally one of the least enjoyable individuals that could ever exist in a forum. It wouldn't be so offensive if he just believed he was right and walked away, but he goes after people and shoves it down their throat and provokes them with little statements, and everybody who knows this guy just knows that arguing with him is useless. And [i]nobody[/i] thinks that he's right all the time, only he thinks that. Anyway, I just want to express that I think he either plays the devil's advocate (or is just simply delusional) as well, but the reason it's not a legitimate method to expose whether or not a person is thinking well, is because he [i]never[/i] concedes that a differing opinion from his own can be legitimate. He will agree with people who are saying things he agrees with, sure, but otherwise he just drives right through, insisting that his own belief is the absolute, end of story. I guess my point is that being well prepared to argue a point and being a condescending douchebag for a hobby are two entirely different things. I give an example: You came in here and made points and discussed a topic at hand. End of story, there was no insinuation that I were an idiot in your words, you spoke to me with the respect that I probably will understand what you said, and might have the ability to even respond with something that means something. Canoas comes into arguments to make people mad, and if not to make them mad, then to try to make people look stupid. He wants you to respond, but the only reason he wants you to respond is to try to prove what you just said wrong, and reinstate his superiority in the argument. Who wants to talk to a guy like that? Particularly when he's commenting on things that he clearly does not understand or even truly care about at all. [quote=Toshabi] BACK OFF YOU PERFECTLY CHISELED-FACED CREETON! >:^[ [/quote] Oh you ;>[/quote]

[quote=Toshabi][quote=DuffTime] The problem is when a person who is well prepared truly begins to believe that they [i]know[/i] everything. There is nothing to concede, there is never a good point they haven't thought of. Even when points being made are legitimate, there isn't even reason to discuss them with a person who believes they know everything. When you've decided with 100% certainty that 1+1=3, it doesn't even matter if you're actually wrong. You are convinced that your interpretation of the topic at hand is the correct and factual one. Now, couple that mentality with a sassy and smart-alecky attitude, and a general sense of superiority/willingness to talk down to people, and you have quite literally one of the least enjoyable individuals that could ever exist in a forum. It wouldn't be so offensive if he just believed he was right and walked away, but he goes after people and shoves it down their throat and provokes them with little statements, and everybody who knows this guy just knows that arguing with him is useless. And [i]nobody[/i] thinks that he's right all the time, only he thinks that. Anyway, I just want to express that I think he either plays the devil's advocate (or is just simply delusional) as well, but the reason it's not a legitimate method to expose whether or not a person is thinking well, is because he [i]never[/i] concedes that a differing opinion from his own can be legitimate. He will agree with people who are saying things he agrees with, sure, but otherwise he just drives right through, insisting that his own belief is the absolute, end of story. I guess my point is that being well prepared to argue a point and being a condescending douchebag for a hobby are two entirely different things. I give an example: You came in here and made points and discussed a topic at hand. End, there was no insinutation in your words, you spoke to me with the respect that I probably will understand what you said, and might have the ability to even respond with something that means something. Canoas comes into arguments to make people mad and try to make people look stupid. He wants you to respond, but the only reason he wants you to respond is to try to prove what you just said wrong, and reinstate his superiority in the argument. Who wants to talk to a guy like that? Particularly when he's commenting on things that he clearly does not understand or even truly care about at all. [quote=Toshabi] BACK OFF YOU PERFECTLY CHISELED-FACED CREETON! >:^[ [/quote] Oh you ;> [/quote] Again, see politics. Specifically liberals and conservatives.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Politics are the dumbest thing I've ever witnessed in my life. What a terrible thing to point to :p If we're using politics as the model, then Canoas for president.[/quote]

[quote=Toshabi]The point is, political discussions between both of those sides are ridiculously stupid. They'd rather argue a point that they know is wrong just so they can uphold their 'honorable duties' to their political party rather than to see some of the wisdom that people on the other side might have on different topics. That's why it's always stupid for people to say they vote in accordance to party lines rather then them actually going in and seeing what's good and bad about the political party they're supporting. Much the same with a lot of the stupid arguments I see spouted all over the face of offtopic. Mind you, I honestly don't mind and I very much enjoy watching you all tear each others windpipes out (I'm kind of a creep). Just thought I'd point out the comparison between the two.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Yes, well, I'm not a politician, and I don't comment in threads to make anybody happy. I come in and express my opinion, simple as that. I've role played many times, through many different avenues, and I can tell you from a lot of personal experience that for a role play to be enjoyable for me, it has to be both intelligent and the people involved cannot be immature. That's what spawns, "Dragonball Z with swords" role play. People flying about and doing this and that. And while I don't have anything against use of magic and even flying aorund and being larger than life in a roleplay, what I really don't like is "God moding" if you will, and it does take a mature person to understand both his character and the realistic boundaries of said character, and to not step over them when some scenario goes down. What's the point of a role play where everyone is invincible and flies around with meteo x5 sword to obliterate the sun and kill the whole world? I'd much prefer role playing with a more mature and well grounded person, since there are varying levels of maturity even within role play, and it does make a massive difference in regards to the quality. Simple as that.[/quote]

[quote=Toshabi]Personally, I don't have a problem with role play (whether you be good or bad at it). All that matters is how much you make that fantasy your life. I know people who go off the wall with roleplaying to the point where they would prefer living in wonderland then in reality. That's when roleplaying becomes immature (in one way, that is).[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]I agree, and role playing isn't in any way a part of my life. Just a simple hobby.[/quote]

[quote=Toshabi]Or if you get really good at it, it can be turned into a career as a movie actor/stage performer. :V[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]:P Then it would be a job.[/quote]