pro singed players

[quote=H4xDefender]Lich bane is a good item on him, AA is not worth the time to stack, and manamune is mediocre since he doesnt AA THAT much anyway.[/quote]

[quote=Machineae]You shouldn't be getting Lich Bane unless you're a very good Singed player that can actually pull off combos with AA's in the middle of teamfights. Unless you can get perfect Sky's AA's then no. Do not build fucking Lich Bane. You're taking up a slot to add onto single target damage instead of adding to either your pseudo-tankiness or your multi target damage. The movement speed bonus is plain dumb because you should have MS Quints. Your finished build should be something like RoA(or FH), Rylai's (pretty much must have), Mercs (or Tabi), Abyssal, Thornmail (if neccasary), then something like GA/Void Staff/DC last. Zhonya's can be worth it if you're the person they jump on and try to blow up but otherwise I'm not really that interested in it. GP/5 items aren't worth it anymore unless you're a really goddamn bad Singed and you need to sit in the back because you're being zoned. You should never have gold problems as Singed because IMO its even easier to farm on him than with Mord. We all know Mord can clear waves incredibly easy and has that shield to help deal with harass. Manamune- fuck no AAS- If you could charge with your Q then MAYBE, but you can't, so no. WoTa- No. Bad scaling and he only gets 1/3 because of his spell vamp because AoE.[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]lol @ saying gp/5s bad on singed when the best singed player in the world builds them.[/quote]

[quote=Machineae]Do you play Singed? You're talking out of your ass. If you're talking about Dyrus, then no he's not the best. He's a very good one, but even he admits IC is better than him by miles and that he wishes he could do what he does. You're halting your progression by building gp/5s. You should have a very large amount of farm, enough to nullify the need of gold items. Just get your boots+4, stay in lane as long as possible and hopefully build that Catalyst by six or seven. Also way to ignore what I said about Lich Bane.[/quote]

[quote=wengthemeng][quote=NicknameMy] [quote=wengthemeng] [quote=GrandmasterD] [quote=Psychofrench] I just picked him up as well and find him fun as hell (I thought he was gonna be boring, quite frankly). I just noticed that I tend to build him differently than most of the top guides, usually going with [[Rod of Ages]], [[Lich Bane]] and [[Archangel's Staff]], not necessarily in that order. I haven't played a lot of PVPs yet, but didn't do too shabby on the few I did. [/quote] AA and Lich are terrible on singed. Rylai's and WotA are good ap items. FoN, FH and randuins are good tank items. Gp10 works also good on him in lane [/quote] I agree that AA and lich are bad on singed. I'm against Rylai's on Singed as well though because: The point of Singed is that you WANT people to chase you. If you get Rylai's they're definitely not gonna chase you anymore; it's just instinct. I never get Rylais on Singed; however, RoA is always a must. [/quote] Not buying [[Rylai's Crystal Scepter]] because you want people to chase you is the biggest noob trap ever. Some situations: [list] [*] Your team tries to run away, but no, you didn't bought [[Rylai's Crystal Scepter]] and your team gets caught. [*] You try to chase someone and hold him in place until [[fling]] and [[mega adhesive]] are back up, but no, you didn't bought [[Rylai's Crystal Scepter]]. [*] You try to slow their whole team by running around them so your team has a big advantage, but no, you didn't bought [[Rylai's Crystal Scepter]].[/list] For me, [[rylai's crystal scepter]] is the most important [[singed]] item in the game (which I also exlain at my guide). [[archangel's staff]] and [[lich bane]] are both medicore on [[singed]], but there are better items for him. In my build, [[archangel's staff]] would replace [[rod of ages]] and [[lich bane]] would replace [[rabadon's deathcap]], but I think, RoA+Rabadon's are both better. [/quote] Your main use for getting rylais scepter looks like is to slow people with your Q. Do you even use his W? W at rank 1 is 35% slow and 75% when maxed out. -your team tries to run away, so you throw a W at their pathing versus a 15% slow piss. I think the reason why you didn't get away is cause you were trying to piss on them with your 15%; use your mega adhesive. -if you want to hold someone in place either: go play a champion who can stun, or just wait a FEW more seconds for your team to catch up. Your E and W aren't always gonna be on CD, when they Are on CD then just let that enemy champion free. Singed is an initiator; I have never encountered a problem where his E and W were on CD and so I couldn't acquire the enemy champion. You make it sound like his 2 most important skills are 60 second CD. - A 15% slow is not gonna stop the enemy team AD or AP carry from Owning your team. So many Champions have gap closers now a days which includes the ADC. Instead of trying to slow them in a team fight, just throw your mega adhesive in the pathing between your carries and the enemy bruisers because that ll prolly be the only use that slow is important for when a team fight occurs. I always mega adhesive to its full potential. It's such a strong slow; one of the best in the game. You're better off getting getting an actual tank item than rylais in my opinion. The slow from Rylais just doesn't seem to cut it when we have Mega Adhesive. If you fling an enemy champion into your team, assure that champion will be dead without the help from rylais.[/quote]

[quote=Machineae]I'm not too crazy about his W tbh. If I know the enemy teams comp is one that favors early aggression I'll take it at 4. Otherwise I leave it until 8. I just don't want to have it sitting there, being a wasted point because I never had to use it. His ult/ghost/exhaust are usually plenty enough for me to grab a few early kills if I decide to play aggressive.[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]im talking about inverted composer. Yes of course I play singed, thats how I know how effective lich bane is on him if played correctly. Its more of a solo queue stomp item, but singed is more of a solo queue stomp champion. If you think its an everygame item or even a rushed item, ofc its not, but its a great item on him if you are against an double ap comp. Even though ic stopped building double gp/5 since the nerf, its still a strong option on him since kage's wasn't nerfed, and randuins/shurelias are such good items. And if you don't build rylai's im not even gonna bother.[/quote]

[quote=wengthemeng][quote=H4xDefender] lol @ saying gp/5s bad on singed when the best singed player in the world builds them. [/quote] Rofl. I think we got a "OMG HOTSHOTGG BUILDS WRIGGLES ON ADC SO IT MUST BE GOOD." kind of person. You're singed top solo all the CS is yours.why on earth do you need gp5 when you're a farming god. What is Posion Trail?[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Not gonna lie, I'm seeing a lot of derp appearing in this thread. :P[/quote]

[quote=wengthemeng][quote=Machineae] I'm not too crazy about his W tbh. If I know the enemy teams comp is one that favors early aggression I'll take it at 4. Otherwise I leave it until 8. I just don't want to have it sitting there, being a wasted point because I never had to use it. His ult/ghost/exhaust are usually plenty enough for me to grab a few early kills if I decide to play aggressive. [/quote] I actually agree. I don't level it until Q and E are maxed. Singed with Ghost and Ulty are alwYs enough up run away or catch up.[/quote]