Vavena wrote:
Sivir doing well against Ez is a misconception. Just as nasus>yorick siv>cait etc are. It really depends on what support they have. Never had an issue with Siv as Ez. Bait her shield with your Q or a support ability then fight. Her range is also painfully short at 500 compared to Ez's 550.
But if the ezreal is actually maxing W why would you ever wanna shield her Q?
If you blow a support ability(say tarics stun) then you're one support ability UP on her, which could quite possibly render a taric unable to do anything in a trade and you're almost one support up.
Let's have a possible level 5 trade here:
Sivir:
AA-Q-AA-W(throw a BAAAM SHIELD NIGGA! somewhere in there.)
Additional damage: 150(i assume you only hit him once with the boomerang)+20=170+2,1 ad scaling(1,1 on boomerang+1 on W)
Mana used: 90+40-75=55
Ezreal:
AA-W-AA-Q-AA(i give ezreal one additional AA because of his 50+range)
Additional damage: 180+35=35+2,0 adscaling.(1 ad scaling from mystic+1 from additional AA)
Mana used: 30+70=100
only thought of sivir as a counter to cait until i tried it :o ohh the horrors.
Gonna go for a run, and when i come back you better be convinced or else *sadface*
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Somalie wrote:
And assuming every skill shot hit at full potential.
No i didn't.
I didn't assume a double hit on sivirs Q and i erased ezreals W due to sivirs spellshield.
@Jeffy, how would supports even remotely put ezreal in favor?
But i can surely put supports into it.
Taric-ezreal
Sivir spellshield taric stun it's super effective, taric nao useless, sivir takes 180 additional damage cuz no spellshield to shield ezreals W
Sivir-sona
sons used power chord 300 damage
sonas Q aura pretty much evens out tarics armor aura.
120 more damage in favor of sivir
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But if the ezreal is actually maxing W why would you ever wanna shield her Q?
If you blow a support ability(say tarics stun) then you're one support ability UP on her, which could quite possibly render a taric unable to do anything in a trade and you're almost one support up.
Let's have a possible level 5 trade here:
Sivir:
AA-Q-AA-W(throw a BAAAM SHIELD NIGGA! somewhere in there.)
Additional damage: 150(i assume you only hit him once with the boomerang)+20=170+2,1 ad scaling(1,1 on boomerang+1 on W)
Mana used: 90+40-75=55
Ezreal:
AA-W-AA-Q-AA(i give ezreal one additional AA because of his 50+range)
Additional damage: 180+35=35+2,0 adscaling.(1 ad scaling from mystic+1 from additional AA)
Mana used: 30+70=100
only thought of sivir as a counter to cait until i tried it :o ohh the horrors.
Gonna go for a run, and when i come back you better be convinced or else *sadface*
You do know if she doesn't block my q, then I wont use my w just for her to shield it. Also Sivir has a mana pool smaller then Ezreals by about 40 at lvl 1. And Ezreal gains more mana per lvl then sivir. Woke up from nap I don't want to actually try and prove you wrong, yawn.


Vavena wrote:
You do know if she doesn't block my q, then I wont use my w just for her to shield it. Also Sivir has a mana pool smaller then Ezreals by about 40 at lvl 1. And Ezreal gains more mana per lvl then sivir. Woke up from nap I don't want to actually try and prove you wrong, yawn.
sivir starts with more base health, health per lvl and AD.
If you don't use W you're obviously gonna loose out on the trade pretty hard or just have to give up cs'ing until sivir backs off from you or the jungler comes to help(where i do agree to ezreal having an edge).
If a champion can make another champion totally drop out on their main poking ability through 2/3s of the lanephase and does not in any other way get something else in return she wouldn't get from other champions. I'd consider it a pretty neat counter.
Regardless i think we're gonna have to agree to disagree Vav. Mabe a skill matchup?
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Mooninites wrote:
Don't hate on the traps now.
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