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How the *BEEP* do I counter Ezreal? Q_Q

Creator: Kirluu August 13, 2012 3:04pm
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I feel kinda stupid for never thinking to max W first. I've been maxing it second and wondering why some of the ezreals I play against seem to do so much more damage with it.

HURR DURR

Guess I'll try it next time I play AD.
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Ya it's not a very obvious thing at first at all I used to max Q first for the best part of a year :3
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Sometimes, Q is superior to W due to range and CD.
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I tried maxing W first then Q, it was alright, I can see it working in lane against AD carries who rely on AS like Vayne. However it might be easier, but it definitely doesn't do more damage...as long as you can hit Mystic Shot reliably it's still better to max that first imo.

The only thing I liked about not maxing Mystic Shot first was that you can control your mana a LOT easier and still do a fair amount of damage.


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You can never hit mystic shot as reliably because it can be blocked by minions. :P
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Luther3000 wrote:

You can never hit mystic shot as reliably because it can be blocked. :P

I think the only thing Q really has over W early in the game is mana cost and range.


ehhh, I hit 90% of my mystic shots, so idk.


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Depends on the skill of the person you're against. I've been thinking about it a lot and decided if you're winning or losing max Q because if you're losing you need to to cs from a distance and if you're winning you tend to stand past your creeps to zone them and W doesn't have the range to do that, however if you're even in lane you tend to stand a lot closer so W would be more effective in that case.
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I kind've like maxing Q if you're laning with a Janna or something, since her shield buffs it. It usually is easier to hit, but it still costs more mana than Q. Like others have said I always max it first when vs. an attackspeed reliant champion like Vayne and Kog'maw. Then I sometimes max Q depending on the matchup / my support. I think they are both viable.
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Just a tiny note from the thread starter here (:D):

In the scenario that I described in the firstpost, I did not choose Ashe/Janna to face the Ezreal/Soraka. It was them who counterpicked me, which also seems understandable based on what has been said in this thread so far, since the topic was turned around somewhat early xD

Other than that, I just wanted to thank you all for enlightening me :) Now I know what to go for specifically when facing a lane such as the one I faced yesterday. So yeah. Thanks a bunch :) Even if a lot of the thread is a two-sided argument, but yeah, it's fine ;3

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I love how this has become an Ezreal discussion :3.

And why bother maxing Q just because of Janna? It only scales 1-1 with total AD, as in you get the same benefit from the shield by having 1 point in it as you do with 5.

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