I didn't try jungle, but I tried him solotop. He has a decent harass and potentially good farming capability. However, he has some pretty long cooldowns on his kagebunshin, which I would have liked to spam a lot more. You can also make some interesting plays with his kit. I really really like him.
Atm, I've only tried building him like I build
Talon or Jayce.
Boots, double Doran's Blades, Mercury's Treads or Ionian Boots of Lucidity, Bloodthirster, Last Whisper or The Brutalizer/ Youmuu's Ghostblade, Guardian Angel, Trinity Force and Bloodthirster.
Atm, I've only tried building him like I build
Talon or Jayce.Boots, double
Doran's Blades, Mercury's Treads or Ionian Boots of Lucidity, Bloodthirster, Last Whisper or The Brutalizer/ Youmuu's Ghostblade, Guardian Angel, Trinity Force and Bloodthirster.
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Ive played him a few times on the PBE and once on live. This is a general build I run on him, I only get the frozen Mallet if I need some tankiness and sticking power.
His W CD needs to get lowered
Use your E in a minion wave its instantly refreshed.
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His W CD needs to get lowered
Use your E in a minion wave its instantly refreshed.
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Berzerk wrote:
Ive played him a few times on the PBE and once on live. This is a general build I run on him, I only get the frozen Mallet if I need some tankiness and sticking power.
Use your E in a minion wave its instantly refreshed.
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I've been playing him a fair bit, and currently I find him hard to jungle well with, mostly because I'm not the best jungle in the world, although I recommend the usual Cloth Armour/Pots and start on Red, much like Lee Sin. Start with your E, then go to W if you see a gank opportunity, or Q if you don't. I reckon it is possible to Boots/pots him, but I haven't got a regular team to try leashing it with, so I can't tell how successful it is.
As For Toplane, he is very good indeed against any Melee champ, Once you get to Level 3, You get a decent poke every 10 or so seconds with W->E->Q->E And get creeps in the process, also I love how he last hits like a champ too :D.
Currently I go Boots/pots -> Brutalizer -> Bloodthirster -> Maw of Malmortius -> Stuff, picking up Merc Treads along the way.
This gives you very high AD early, making your combo Really strong, and if you hit it all it either forces a retreat or gank, but he's very squishy at that time. I do question whether or not bloodthirster is good early, but it can give you 100 AD early on, which is unmatched with any other item, lifesteal is simply a bonus as well as a bit of sustain. Will try out other forms of Zed, but an early brutalizer is painful indeed.
Also he isn't bad as a 1v2 lane, after level 3/4 due to poke as a side note. Although I've yet to test the trial by fire of sona/ezreal lane to see if he stands up to expectations.
Also a few of my matchups so far:
P.S. Yes I'm not level 30 yet (26 atm)
As For Toplane, he is very good indeed against any Melee champ, Once you get to Level 3, You get a decent poke every 10 or so seconds with W->E->Q->E And get creeps in the process, also I love how he last hits like a champ too :D.
Currently I go Boots/pots -> Brutalizer -> Bloodthirster -> Maw of Malmortius -> Stuff, picking up Merc Treads along the way.
This gives you very high AD early, making your combo Really strong, and if you hit it all it either forces a retreat or gank, but he's very squishy at that time. I do question whether or not bloodthirster is good early, but it can give you 100 AD early on, which is unmatched with any other item, lifesteal is simply a bonus as well as a bit of sustain. Will try out other forms of Zed, but an early brutalizer is painful indeed.
Also he isn't bad as a 1v2 lane, after level 3/4 due to poke as a side note. Although I've yet to test the trial by fire of sona/ezreal lane to see if he stands up to expectations.
Also a few of my matchups so far:
P.S. Yes I'm not level 30 yet (26 atm)
Scratching out every other game.......
And yeah, use your E in a group 1sec CD reduce on your W for every unit hit by your shadow.
And imo: Dropping some damage on E by maxing it last and W second isn't bad.
You won't lose any CD on it and the damaged loss there is compensated by gaining the extra AD with your W earlier.
And yeah, use your E in a group 1sec CD reduce on your W for every unit hit by your shadow.
And imo: Dropping some damage on E by maxing it last and W second isn't bad.
You won't lose any CD on it and the damaged loss there is compensated by gaining the extra AD with your W earlier.
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Scratching out every other game.......
And yeah, use your E in a group 1sec CD reduce on your W for every unit hit by your shadow.
And imo: Dropping some damage on E by maxing it last and W second isn't bad.
You won't lose any CD on it and the damaged loss there is compensated by gaining the extra AD with your W earlier.
And yeah, use your E in a group 1sec CD reduce on your W for every unit hit by your shadow.
And imo: Dropping some damage on E by maxing it last and W second isn't bad.
You won't lose any CD on it and the damaged loss there is compensated by gaining the extra AD with your W earlier.
Problem is, while getting more AD is lovely on W, Your E's slow gets more potent the further you go down it... depends what you want really. Might it be viable to level at around the same time?
Also I scratched out the other games, because 1 was a Soraka game and the other few were games where either I or my team (or both) played really badly. Will post results that are not heavily affected by my complete failure when I get the chance. Besides, it's still a case of trial and error with him right now, so not every game can be perfect -.-'
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