I'm completely ****ing sick of this game for...

[quote=B-Wong][b]FUCK[/b] Darius. Seriously FUCK THAT CHARACTER. Whoever the [b]FUCK[/b] decided Garen needed no cooldown on his ult along with a built-in ignite and Blitz pull that goes through minions needs to be shot right in the fucking head. That being said: How the fuck does one go about playing against this character? I can't fucking figure it out. It's near impossible to outlane him. It seems that if you have a jungler that is busy in mid/bot/counter jungling, etc. you're just going to be doomed to lose the game because the other person picked this fucking joke of a champion. So how the fuck do you do it? Also I have no idea where the fuck to put this.[/quote]

[quote=Friendly Pony]welcome back to mobafire bwong, nice to see you. ps [s]eatmorerice[/s][/quote]

[quote=B-Wong][quote=Friendly Pony] welcome back to mobafire bwong, nice to see you. ps [s]eatmorerice[/s] [/quote] Hola.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]Stack health. Sunfire cape is damn good against him. Out damage him. If you can beat his face in super early, he won't really get the kills he needs to get/stay ahead. Out range him. Biggest thing here. He is close range 100%. Q is short range, pull is short range, ult is actually fairly short range too. Kayle is his #1 counter because of a heal on a low CD, range, and a cockblock-ing ult. There ya go. Counters.[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod]So many f words *_* What's so hard about him? You can beat him with many ranged champions if you know what you're doing ([[kennen]], [[teemo]], [[swain]], [[nidalee]], [[jayce]], [[kayle]], [[elise]], [[lulu]]), or you can learn a really good [[rumble]]. Wouldn't know about other bruisers since I don't play them. All you gotta understand is melees with no mobility are easily raped through Q harass + his Apprehend. However, these two abilities can be frequently baited in order to give you free harass if he misses. Flat HP also helps, something like [[frozen mallet]][/quote]

[quote=B-Wong][quote=Lugignaf] Stack health. Sunfire cape is damn good against him. [color=red]Yes but not necessarily against the rest of the team.[/color] Out damage him. If you can beat his face in super early, he won't really get the kills he needs to get/stay ahead. [color=red]Is that even possible? If you guys just trade and he has ignite+bleed stacks, I feel like 100% of the time you will never come out on top or you will just trade kills.[/color] Out range him. Biggest thing here. He is close range 100%. Q is short range, pull is short range, ult is actually fairly short range too. [color=red]Pull is just as much range as a regular ranged attack. Also if Darius is picked after you've already picked a top champion this will never apply ever.[/color] Kayle is his #1 counter because of a heal on a low CD, range, and a cockblock-ing ult. [color=red]K.[/color] There ya go. Counters. [/quote] [quote=FalseoGod] So many f words *_* What's so hard about him? You can beat him with many ranged champions if you know what you're doing ([[kennen]], [[teemo]], [[swain]], [[nidalee]], [[jayce]], [[kayle]], [[elise]], [[lulu]]), or you can learn a really good [[rumble]]. Wouldn't know about other bruisers since I don't play them. [color=red]It's really not as easy as you're making it sound. See the comment about his pull and ranged characters up above.[/color] All you gotta understand is melees with no mobility are easily raped through Q harass + his Apprehend. However, these two abilities can be frequently baited in order to give you free harass if he misses. Flat HP also helps, something like [[frozen mallet]] [color=red]Maybe.[/color] [/quote][/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]He has no sustain, so poke him. He has zero mobility, so kite him. (idk wut to do if you're melee) Don't let him get 5 stacks of his passive on you, that's what lets him win trades. So trade, back off, and trade again. Item-wise Double Dorans > HoG > Fromal works pretty good, add in some armor if you need it. Oh, his lvl 1 damage is like low as hell, a lot of champions can out damage him then (lee sin, olaf, etc)[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod]Are you kidding? The champs whose AAs are the same as his pull in range aren't that much. You can abuse his level 1 since he gets Q 90% of the time, and from the next level you can poke has he last hits, and come and go. I've done this 1000 times with [[Teemo]], and [[Kayle]] can kite him even harder because if he tries to move to you, you just Q and hit harder. it's not that hard, I'm not telling you to stay one year auto-attacking, because he will surely walk up to E range, but one auto here and there can really annoy him a whole lot, even lower him enough so that you can go in. By your logic, I would've never won with [[rumble]], seeing as he too is melee, yet it's as easy as coming and going, being unpredictable and luring his E out. And if you're playing [[teemo]] top you should get [[frozen mallet]] anyway, unless you're one of those guys who likes to buy [[malady]] and then [[nashor's tooth]] so you get instagibbed every team fight.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Holy shit, B-Wong is alive. Gank the hell out of him, he has no escape. I actually agree that it's bullshit design that Darius gets to deal ridiculous damage without building any damage iems. Also, Apprehend has 550 range - that's the same or greater than any ranged champion that isn't Ashe, Caitlyn or Tristana.[/quote]

[quote=Psychofrench]I have shut down a few of them in lane, and all they had to do was go into teamfight with their crappy [[Phage]] and ks everyone to rake up kills. His ulti IS bullshit, he doesn't need a CD reset, his other skills do enough damage as it is that he can be viable without it.[/quote]