sirell wrote:
This means everything offends you
This is false :P
Something doesn't need to offend me in order to be offensive :p
I don't care if some random guy makes hate comments about pinguins or so.
But if someone finds that offensive, it is an offensive comment, but not towards me.
:D
Let's just stop this discussion and let me win the argument :D



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Meiyjhe wrote:
This is false :P
Something doesn't need to offend me in order to be offensive :p
I don't care if some random guy makes hate comments about pinguins or so.
But if someone finds that offensive, it is an offensive comment, but not towards me.
:D
Let's just stop this discussion and let me win the argument :D
TRANSLATION: he can find a comment offensive, but not be offended by it

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DillButt64 wrote:
TRANSLATION: he can find a comment offensive, but not be offended by it
Correct translation, but false statement. If there was not some part of the comment that he was offended by in the first place, then he would not find it offensive. A thing is not offensive in and of itself, unless it were to inherently take offense at itself.
After all, why would he find it offensive unless there was some part of it that offends him? Perhaps it offends him that someone else is being discriminatory to someone else, but he certainly finds fault in whatever is said. Hence, he cannot find a comment offensive and not be offended by it at the same time.
Meiyjhe wrote:
This is false :P
Meiyjhe wrote:
If something is offensive to aaaanyone, it is considered offensive towards me.
sirell wrote:
This means everything offends you, since anything can offend anyone. Since that doesn't appear to be the case, you are either a liar or mistaken. For one who loves philosophy, you surely do say some incoherent things.
According to the premise you gave, it is actually true.
Your premise: If something is offensive to anyone, then it is offensive to you.
Hence, if anything and everything can offend anyone (which is possible), even if it is just one person, and anything (which is offensive to anyone) is offensive to you, then it logically entails that anything and everything is offensive to you.
Ergo, the conclusion is true, and not false, according to your words.
Which is why I said you were mistaken or lying when you said:
Meiyjhe wrote:
If something is offensive to aaaanyone, it is considered offensive towards me.
The fallacy lies in what you said here.
DemonSovereign wrote:
I've seen a lot of sirell vs FireLord arguments lately lol
Keep the arguments with PMs?
Seriously though, a few pages of arguments in every single thread isn't fun to read.
Keep the arguments with PMs?
Seriously though, a few pages of arguments in every single thread isn't fun to read.
There's been two, so I don't know what you are on about. Why should we PM when the discussion begins in the thread itself? If it distresses you that much, then don't read them? I'm not forcing you to read them, you read them of your own free will.
You are indeed a very good philosopher ser :D
However I still disagree with you, I respect your opinion.
Let us just forget about this, because we are now talking about minor things within each sentence :D
Big respect for you! +rep
However I still disagree with you, I respect your opinion.
Let us just forget about this, because we are now talking about minor things within each sentence :D
Big respect for you! +rep


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Actually, I asked Mowen previously to close the thread, but he said he wouldn't seeing as the discussion was continuing and this was in the Offtopic section. Since FireLord continued with the discussion, I continued as well.
All things considered, though, you respond better than FireLord does/did. Just goes to show that he's probably a very sensitive guy. I already gave you a +rep today, though, so you're gonna have to wait until tomorrow for another +rep.
All things considered, though, you respond better than FireLord does/did. Just goes to show that he's probably a very sensitive guy. I already gave you a +rep today, though, so you're gonna have to wait until tomorrow for another +rep.
sirell wrote:
All things considered, though, you respond better than FireLord does/did. Just goes to show that he's probably a very sensitive guy. I already gave you a +rep today, though, so you're gonna have to wait until tomorrow for another +rep.
nah, you just cant open your eyes and see the truth. something is offensive depending on if the society considers it offensive. someone is offended if a comment/action offends them. in a society eating cow may not be considered offansive but in another it might.
whether something is offensive or not is dependent on the general common sense, not on the specific feelings of one individual. that's why you can't say some things on tv. for example, imagine there's only one person in the world that is green, and there's one person in the world that think the colour yellow is offensive. saying "green people are stupid" is offensive while "i like yellow" is not. it's common sense.
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