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Jungle Udyr.

Creator: Joshified February 18, 2013 4:02am
What form should Udyr jungle with in season 3?
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Tiger or Phoenix form in the current jungle state?

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They clear at very similar times, it really comes down to what you want your role in the team to be.

Tiger Udyr has a stronger 1v1 and Phoenix Udyr has stronger teamfight capability. It's really just personal preference now. I would suggest you try playing him both ways and play him however you like best.
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i prefer tiger, better ganks and dragons.
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I agree with Bard, but as a personal preference I enjoy Tiger.

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I prefer Phoenix, even now...I just like the playstyle of it better
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Wasn't Phoenix nerfed some time ago? Not to say it's bad, just because I'm not sure anymore. Was either buffed or nerfed.

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i heard tiger was slightly faster in S3 but i never really noticed.

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Tiger stance is a little faster i believe. Synergizes with udyr well too, since it's pretty common to get Spirit of the Elder Lizard on him now

Also helps his dueling capabilities
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Rhollback wrote:

Wasn't Phoenix nerfed some time ago? Not to say it's bad, just because I'm not sure anymore. Was either buffed or nerfed.

It was slightly buffed almost two years ago.

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i heard tiger was slightly faster in S3 but i never really noticed.

They're about the same now, initially, but tiger requires items to maintain fast clear speeds, whereas phoenix requires levels.
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The main differences between tiger and phoenix are in the red buff ganks early, and the post-laning utility. You'll have a bit easier time chunking people down with the attack speed buff and burn on tiger, than you will with phoenix. Post laning, however, Phoenix is a stronger wave clear, and can itemize full tank while remaining a useful damage soak and threat. Tiger must itemize some damage to remain a threat, and will lose damage soak potential in doing so.
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I main top Udyr, which I run with tiger.
I played jungle Udyr for about a year and a bit before I got into top, and I always ran phoenix.

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