[Item Idea]Nashor's Scale

[quote=krolk88]Name:Nashor's Scale +50 Armor +25% Cooldown Reduction +300 Mana +300 Health Unique Passive:Increases your health by 5% of your mana Recipe: [[Glacial Shroud]] + [[Kindlegem]] Cost of Recipe items:1350+850 = 2200 Cost of item: 800 Combine Cost [color=#ffffff]3000[/color] Some will say that its too op,but considering other items like[[Nashor's Tooth]],[[Guardian Angel]] i dont think so.This item would make bruiser [[Taric]] more viable,because now he lacks items that gives him health,while he is forced to bulid mana and armor(there is no item that gives mana+armor+health).What do you think?[/quote]

[quote=DKitten]25% CDR is too OP. And quite frankly, it kinda looks like [[Frozen Heart]], except Frozen Heart gives more mana, more armor, and no HP.[/quote]

[quote=Meiyjhe]Let's calculate how awesome this item is: The stats worth are: Armor: 50 * 20g = 1000g CDR: 32,20 * 25g = 805g Mana: 300 * 2g = 600g Health: 300 * 2,64g = 792g Everything together = 1000 + 805 + 600 + 792 = 3197g This excludes the passive. If the champion has around 3000 mana with this item, he will get: 0,05 * 3000 = 150 health Which equals: 150 * 2,64 = 396g So then it would be 3197 + 396 = 3593g when having 3000 mana. This means the item is 593g more worth than you spend on it. It might look very OP, but this is actually pretty normal considering that all stats get worth less gold when you have more of it (like BF sword has AD worth of 34,44g/stat and Long sword has a worth of 40g/stat) So this item could be okay :P However, the CDR is a bit high imo, 20% is enough :D Also: This item would only be really bought by people that already buy Frozen Heart (since this is a real mana, CDR + armor item, just like Frozen Heart) as stated above Since 20% + 25% CDR does not go along well, especially when having CDR masteries, you might want to change the stats a bit :P Though I'd love to see more mana items, if people need to make a choice between Frozen Heart and this item, Frozen Heart would probably win more love :P[/quote]

[quote=sirell]This item just single-handedly broke [[Ryze]].[/quote]

[quote=Aseafy]25% cdr is too much. Calculating item "efficiency", btw, like mehyje has done, is not really the best way because if you calculated things like that, roa would be efficient by 1k gold, and lich bane would be efficient by around 2k gold. This would be the perfect item for any tank, and it would make it a "must build". Kindlegem is already broken by itself, adding it to glacial shroud would not work well with league.[/quote]

[quote=Pheyniex]so, you guys think its fine to make an upgrade and end up with worse stats than its parts, as in kindlegem (10%) + glacial shroud (15%) obviously equals 20%. i do agree thare is a reason riot doesnt mix these to, precisely to avoid an item that provides more than half the cap.[/quote]

[quote=Meiyjhe][quote=Pheyniex] so, you guys think its fine to make an upgrade and end up with worse stats than its parts, as in kindlegem (10%) + glacial shroud (15%) obviously equals 20%. i do agree thare is a reason riot doesnt mix these to, precisely to avoid an item that provides more than half the cap. [/quote] COUGH COUGH http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Glacial_Shroud COUGH COUGH[/quote]

[quote=Pheyniex]oh, sorry... I WANT S2 BACK.[/quote]

[quote=Meiyjhe][quote=Pheyniex] oh, sorry... [/quote] You are forgiven :D[/quote]

[quote=jhoijhoi]I said no because that is way too much cool down reduction for one item.[/quote]