Sirell, feel free to watch the video if you would like to, the video is about warding properly for the most part. I explain warding quite a bit there.

Lagger, Patoy is one of the better supports here in NA currently playing for Dignitas. I can honestly say I've never seen any top/pro players maxing E first, let alone over W. But I think arguing with you at this point is a waste of my time since all your going to say is that I am just wrong. You can continue to play lulu that way if you'd like, even if I feel its not the most efficient way to go about it. I would highly suggest looking into what most of the pro players these days are doing with their abilities, I think you may be surprised.

Murphy, in my future guides I will go into more depth about my rune choices and why thanks for the feedback. While I understand that there may be a few more useful items, this is the setup I am recommending for players in solo que and what I run in solo que / ranked 5s right now. If you are against an equally matched lane, of skilled players, often times your poke with lulu isn't going to turn into kills, but will turn into zoning them and denying them there experience. GP 10 is efficient when this is the case, I always go into a match like I am playing better or equally matched players.

As for my BBC code, its my first time ever using BBC Code and my first guide so Ill admit it will take some getting used to.

Thanks guys

Strange. I've rushed Sightstone first 9/10. Maybe you're warding incorrectly at incorrect timings. *hint hint*

Yeah, I seem to recall it being about. I used vision spells as Caitlyn or Nidalee or something (in fact, I think it was Lulu) and found I could see wards if they stayed in its vicinity long enough when I cast the whatever-spell-it-was. It wasn't too long ago either, in the last week or two at least.

Hmm I wasnt able to do that. Maybe OTG wasn't standing close enough.

Regarding the skill order argument: you're quite obviously wrong. And so is Patoy. Who's Patoy anyway? Some kind of pro player or something?

The fact that W doesn't mitigate that much damage early (before the enemy ADC gets items) notwithstanding, look at the scaling on both of them. E has a very good base value (used offensively), whereas W has a very poor scaling - it starts at 1.5 seconds and only increases by a quarter second each rank - which makes it clear that it is a one-point wonder.

• You should check the bbcode in chapter "Pro's & Cons" your Conblock is a little bit outstanding.
• In your rune chapter you shouldn't talk about other viable runes just in one sentence.
• Why you picked in quintessence and seals gp10 runes ? Also why you pick a 0/13/17 mastery tree, when want a "poke" support. Gp10 Items and runes are a good way to get gold for a support, but If you pick a poke or a bully support you want to get the gold of kills not of items.
• Your "core Items" chapters, are a little bit unusual. you talked about the items but in a complete text. It would be better if you do more space between each item.
• I think you should overwork your items, I think there are other viable Items for her and I don't think there is just one itembuild for Lulu.

Dear banana get over here.

This 100 percent still works, I will make another video right now to show you. Uploading video proof right now. When you see the proof I hope you will edit your posts saying that I am incorrect, when I am proving that I am infact not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcLMRtar65o

Was he on your team while he did this? He needs to be on the opposing team I believe.. this is why you use enemy minions and not your owns. IE gain aggro and pull them into your lane bush when you know they have it warded for the free kill..

Also, let me talk about W > E and my logic. You are saying you can trade more effectively. A trade is implying that both parties are taking some form of damage. W allows you to take 0 damage during the time he is polyd.. Now, yes E does give you a small bit more damage, and a small shield, however taking 0 damage is more effective then taking any damage at all.

I googled it too, and details on it are remarkably sketchy. I've no idea when it was patched out, but it seems a long time ago because it was never true for me. Which means your second video was considerably older than its upload date (Nov 2012).

I can also back him up that it doesnt work, I placed the wards for him myself. :p

Tested and proven.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcLMRtar65o

Confirmed doesn't work, 100%. I just tested it, including offensive E on an enemy champion while he is standing on top of his wards. I doubted your statement and went to test it because I never knew it to be true (I haven't been playing for that long I suppose).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD8vW7s2ibQ

Go to the 30 second mark of this video. If this doesnt still work it has been patched out, but I have deffinitly done this,several times. If you want more examples Ill grab a few more. Here is another.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_5yvR_krN4