Apen Mundo or Full Tank Mundo?

[quote=Meiyjhe]It refreshes the proc. [[sunfire cape]] > [[spirit of the elder lizard]] Especially when you take dat MPen[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Well, I get both, so.^^[/quote]

[quote=Aseafy]liandry's is the only ap damg item you should get botrk, triforce, and a few other ad items are viable if you are ahead.[/quote]

[quote=DarkAkumaLord]Sorcs Liandrys Warmog's Spirit Visage Lizard Elder Sunfire Cape I say nahhh to atma until late game sell lizard and buy it.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]atma's sucks hardcore, never get it on anyone. It is just 75 AD with 5000 HP.[/quote]

[quote=DarkAkumaLord]Better than havoc, A LOT better[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]You compare an item to a mastery?[/quote]

[quote=DarkPercy][quote=DarkAkumaLord] Better than havoc, A LOT better [/quote] K. I will not let this last any longer. [[havoc]], I will defend your honor baby. Where would you spend your [[havoc]] points instead? In [[butcher]]? Please. Learn to last hit better or realize that it only does damage against Minions/monsters and not against Champions. In [[fury]] ? 1% Attack Speed versus 0.67% damage increase. I WONDER WHAT'S BETTER. Firstly, the damage increase from [[havoc]] will increase ALL your damage. May it be from Attacks or from Spells or from items. This, by itself, makes [[havoc]] win. 1% Attack Speed will only make you have slightly more DPS with autoattacks. Even then, I think [[havoc]] increases your autoattack's DPS by more than [[fury]]. If it does, [[havoc]] completely stomps [[fury]] [spoiler=What increases autoattacking DPS more? Havoc or alacrity?] For this I will use a [[kog'maw]] build. [icon=infinity edge size=40][icon=phantom dancer size=40][icon=berserker's greaves size=40]+[icon=enchantment: alacrity size=40][icon=last whisper size=40][icon=guardian angel size=40][icon=bloodthirster size=40] WITH ONE POINT IN [[fury]] [color=#ff8000]AD = 325[/color] [color=#00ff00]Attack Speed: 0.665 + 150.05% = 1.6628325 [/color] [color=#ff0000]Crit damage = 255%[/color] [color=#ff0000]Crit Chance = 55%[/color] [color=#808000]Armor Penetration = 8% + 35% + 6 + 11.52[/color] Magic Damage done with [[bio-arcane barrage]] = 240 per autoattack [color=#0080ff]Magic Resist Penetration = 0 [/color] [color=#008000]Health = 4000[/color] [color=#ffff00]Armor = 200 - 40.2% - 17.52 = 102.08 Which results in a damage multiplier of: 100/202.08 = 0.494853 [/color] [color=#00ffff]Magic Resist = 100 Which results in a damage multiplier of: 100/200 = 0.5[/color] Average Physical damage per autoattack = [color=#ff8000]325[/color] x [color=#ff0000](((2.55 - 1) x 0.55) +1)[/color] = [color=#ff8000]602.06[/color] Average Raw DPS = AS x AveragePD per auto = 1001.125 Physical DPS after Armor: [b]495.41[/b] Raw Magic damage per second = 240 x AS = 589 Magic Damage done per autoattack after Magic Resist = 240 x 0.5 = 120 Magic DPS = [b]198.742[/b] [b][i]Total DPS = 694.152 [/i][/b] WITH 1 POINT IN [[havoc]] INSTEAD: [icon=infinity edge size=40][icon=phantom dancer size=40][icon=berserker's greaves size=40]+[icon=enchantment: alacrity size=40][icon=last whisper size=40][icon=guardian angel size=40][icon=bloodthirster size=40] (Bloodthirster to make it simple) [color=#ff8000]AD = 325[/color] [color=#00ff00]Attack Speed: 0.665 + 149.05% = 1.6561825 [/color] [color=#ff0000]Crit damage = 255%[/color] [color=#ff0000]Crit Chance = 55%[/color] [color=#808000]Armor Penetration = 8% + 35% + 6 + 11.52[/color] Magic Damage done with [[bio-arcane barrage]] = 240 per autoattack [color=#0080ff]Magic Resist Penetration = 0 [/color] [color=#008000]Health = 4000[/color] [color=#ffff00]Armor = 200 - 40.2% - 17.52 = 102.08 Which results in a damage multiplier of: 100/202.08 = 0.494853 [/color] [color=#00ffff]Magic Resist = 100 Which results in a damage multiplier of: 100/200 = 0.5[/color] Average Physical damage per autoattack = [color=#ff8000]325[/color] x [color=#ff0000](((2.55 - 1) x 0.55) +1)[/color] = [color=#ff8000]602.06[/color] Average Raw DPS = AS x AveragePD per auto = 997.125 Physical DPS after Armor: [b]493.43[/b] Raw Magic damage per second = 240 x AS = 589 Magic Damage done per autoattack after Magic Resist = 240 x 0.5 = 120 Magic DPS = [b]198.742[/b] [b][i]Total DPS = 692.172*1.0067 = 696.81 [/i][/b][/spoiler] RESULTS: WITH [[fury]] THE DPS IS 694.152 AND WITH [[havoc]] IT'S 696.81 Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom *sunglasses*[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]DarkPercy bringing out the big numbers.[/quote]

[quote=DarkAkumaLord]Lol if ure talking bout ap go brute force and shtuff now do the numbers[/quote]