MOBAFire Tournaments

[quote=DillButt64][quote=Bioalchemist] [quote=lifebaka] No, creating those requirements is actually really easy. A dozen posts or a guide creation/update in the month before the tournament for EUW tournaments (which are happening at the start of the month) or in the current month for NA tournaments (which are happening towards the end of the month) ensures reasonable and continuing activity and is easy to test for. [/quote] I was suggesting the following: how do you determine what the minimum number of posts should be? how do you determine if those posts were relevant and contributing to the mobafire community or just spammed shit over time? (such as a member who goes to every guide and says 'good build' or 'bad build'...there is such a member btw) meh whatever....for now regardless of how those questions are answered the post minimum is the best way to ensure that the community is involved over random people who want to make a buck. i can't think of any other way. I do think you should include people that are involved in the inhouses too...as not all of those people contribute through posting....but they do contribute to the community. [/quote] this is true, there are people that no longer go on the site but still play in inhouses and are active in the in-game chat but because theyre well known in the community im sure theyll be fine and i do think we should have a post limit, no idea what the post limit can be but it shouldnt be too high because its not like we plan the tournaments months in advance, and if its too high it will give people more of a reason to shit post, if it was something like 100ish (and i wouldnt say they need to have a guide/build because that would lead to people just making shit guides just to get in and having more shit guides is something i know nobody here wants) then it would be ok, if they are active in discussions or do an AMA (who wouldnt want an AMA from a challenger tier player?) then they could get 100 posts easy and even if they dont a challenger AMA is great for the community as a whole[/quote]

[quote=C4 Lasty][quote=throatslasher] There should be no post requirements if your team averages gold elo or below. [/quote] Whats to stop smurf teams then?[/quote]

[quote=C4 Lasty]I don't think an AMA is worth having a 'predetermined' tournament go back to last months I called the winner well in advance...Challenger teams DO NOT LOSE...that's why they are challenger.[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]yes but at least theyre contributing to the community, which is the real problem with the cups i have a hypothetical question for you lasty, if there was one single challenger tier player on mobafire with 2000+ posts on mobafire along with multiple guides, all rated 95% and higher, would you exclude that member and his/hers team just because they are challenger? or would you allow them to play in the community cup because theyre a part of the community?[/quote]

[quote=C4 Lasty]Dill if someone is challenger, they don't belong in an amateur tournament. If he gets a bunch of non-community member Diamond 1 players together to roll his community hes a scumbag and I don't want him in. If he wants to make a case why he + 4 other silver/gold moba friends of his should be allowed to play I'd listen to it. Luckily though, as far as I know we don't have any challenger players in our community. Someone can prove me wrong by posting here I suppose.[/quote]

[quote=MyRepublic]Not to mention that the argument is irrelevant as there is no such team, so there is no point in discussing such a thing.[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]which is why i said its a hypothetical question my point is that its a community tournament, if someone is a part of the community and they contribute to the community they should be allowed to play regardless of rank if a challenger tier player makes a mobafire account and does an AMA, answers theorycrafting threads, has a ranked journey thread, and brings other threads to the forum and makes guides then he/she can and should be allowed to play in the community cup because they are contributing to the community and arnt in it just for the prizes (which is the real problem imo) i understand it would be unfair to people if there was a challenger tier player but wouldnt it be more unfair to exclude someone that contributes to the community just because theyre challenger? i know there isnt someone like this on mobafire BUT if one of those challenger tier randoms actually does those things would you still want to exclude them?[/quote]

[quote=C4 Lasty]Stop bringing this up its counterproductive, there are no challenger kids that are active in the moba community. They could make an exception as I stated for him if he wanted to play on a team w/ other moba contributors but as this will most likely NEVER happen lets focus on solutions to a very real problem. The solution I'm going to keep bringing up is, exclude challenger players (5's or soloque), and make a team post count of say 400-500 posts. This solves the majority of your problems without creating too many NEW PROBLEMS. Which dividing the tournament makes more problems then it fixes. -Simon[/quote]

[quote=DarkAkumaLord]Ok I got an idea, A divided tournament with two prizes, The 2 winners get to face of for fun. :)[/quote]

[quote=C4 Lasty]Can you explain to me why you think the tournament should be split? Wherever you decide to do the split the highest rated teams are still going to run away w/ the prizes.[/quote]