Darius Discussion.

[quote=Joshified]Something that really bugs me is when I see [[Darius]] players who build pure damage items as if he is a melee adc. He is, by design, a high damage dealing off-tank who specializes in mixed damage types. What benefits does he actually recieve from building [[the bloodthirster]] instead of [[randuin's omen]] anyways? While it may make him deal more damage in a 1v1 situation, no one will be wanting to fight a [[Darius]] straight up anyways. You only have 1 ability to close the gap (unless you start fights with ult >.>) and it is on a massive cooldown. What is the point of having massive amount of damage if you can't catch anyone and in teamfights you just get focused with cc and die? Seriously. You can actually focus [[darius]] over an adc if he has more damage, it its not a written rule that you HAVE to go the adc. Any team that sees a squishy [[Darius]] charging towards their carries are going to destroy you. [[Darius]] also isn't a burst champion. He should not be built as if he needs his abilities to deal all his damage. He is a massive source of DPS with his passive and is great at securing kills on low hp targets with his ulti. Tl:dr [[Darius]] is a tank, not a burst champion like [[Jayce]]. So stop building him like one.[/quote]

[quote=throatslasher]I'll build him how I damn well please. Pure dps darius is fine if you're 8-0. You can pick up a sheen somwhere along the way and 5shot towers.[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]Disagree with like, 90% of this post. Darius isn't a tank, he's a bruiser. Most bruisers go one damage item and 4 tank items. Ex: BorK as damage, randuins/FH/Bulwark for defense, another damage if you're fed, another tank if not. Darius is a champion that triple dips straight AD. More AD gives him more true damage, more magical damage, and more physical damage. Yeah, Randuins makes you stay alive longer, but if you want damage you buy damage. His E is on a relatively short cooldown if you built him properly with items that give CDR, like [[brutalizer]] or something. Goes down to about 7 seconds, I think. Massive damage works if you can 1 combo burst squishies, but then you'd be useless afterwards. See: Rengar + Sword of the Divine. In some cases you can score multi-kills just through sheer damage if you know how to use that champion properly. Also, since he has high base damages, Darius does have a strong amount of burst. He isn't as bursty as Jayce, true, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have it at all. 300 on Q, AA + W ~400, ult up to 1000 true damage, not to mention you're able to auto-attack people since you have your hook and slow. That's enough to drop most squishies. tl; dr Darius is a bruiser, not a tank. Build 1 or 2 damage items MAX and full tank.[/quote]

[quote=Kaggboer2012]if you play darius as a tank you can just stand in the middle of the enemy team, tank damage, press q if you feel like doing that too and you still have that awesome ult which allows you to build 0 damage but still get every kill. no reason to build him as an adc ^^[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=throatslasher] Pure dps darius is fine if you're 8-0. You can pick up a sheen somwhere along the way and 5shot towers. [/quote] Slam bam, thank you ma'am, get on the floor and jam! Best way to play Darius is stack AD and just steamroll the opposing champs that think they can fight you.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]bruiser definitely. maw of malmortius and frozen mallet real strong. then just some health and an atmas maybe.[/quote]

[quote=Luftwaffel]If it works, then what's the problem? If you build him as an ADC and you end games with flawless scores then you're doing it right.[/quote]

[quote=Joshified]Think Bruiser isn't really the correct term, if anything I would name him as an "Off-tank". Why does he need damge if he can already 1 combo an adc without it? As a general rule, if you aren't being focused; build damage. If you have [[Sunfire cape]], [[Randuin's omen]] and [[Maw of malmortis]] and no one on the enemy team wants to touch you because you are too tanky, then you should build some damage to become more of a threat. I misworded this post, the main problem I am 'attacking against' is [[Darius]] being built as an adc and expecting the entire team to peel for him when he runs in first.[/quote]

[quote=DarkPercy]Nah, both work. I've seen too many Diamond [[darius]] players build [[bloodthirster]], [[bloodthirster]], [[last whisper]], [[black cleaver]] and kill anything they see in 0.1 seconds. Darius has ridiculous scaling with damage and when played correctly there's nothing the enemy team can do to stop your damage. Even if the Darius only goes in the enemy team, uses E + Q, ults one guy then dies, it's still worth it because he probably just instakilled someone and did 20% of many other champs[/quote]

[quote=IShouldGetALife]Full AD [[Darius]] rapes if it is played well, I vs'd one and completely underestimated it and he snowballed insanely, he could insta kill everything and my team's like "focus the [[Darius]]" then they get raped by the [[Draven]] and he starts to get fed. Edit: What I was trying to say was that it is a good strategy and works just as well if not better as tanky [[Darius]] because it provides an extra ,massive damage dealer that destroys unless he is killed so if he is killed the adc usually just cleans up.[/quote]