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[EUW] - Screenshots and Game Discussion - June

Creator: Jovy June 3, 2013 4:20am
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Watching that really drove home how much I've degraded since I last played Lux :/ It doesn't help that I didn't actually start playing Lux until things were too late, if you know what I mean. I picked up the odd map related point, but most of the errors I was aware of as I made them.

I'm not sure I'm even going to bother watching the first game. My problems with Elise go far, far beyond the ingame skills. My confidence issues in inhouses are exacerbated hugely in jungle and playing anything that needs to melee at some point. I've improved in that respect this week, as I hoped to, but I think jungling is just going to be a major stress for me in inhouses. Definitely something I want to avoid.
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Tbh that game pretty much all of us failed, not just you.

EDIT: BarbJ, I noticed you maxed your E on maokai, don't you think Q max is a lot better?
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(When I tried to post this the first time, it logged me out. Attempt #2!)

I would have maxed Q if I was going to be ganking more. But since bot lane fell so far behind before I really had the chance to try to gank, there was a Garen top (which I've never had real success ganking in normal games, he just sustains and laughs), and Khazem's major lags issues, I decided to max E for camp clearing instead.
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eh I've been wanting to give people constructive critisism in games but it's kinda difficult to pay attention to what other people do wrong/could do better while trying to focus on playing a good game yourself.
I could look at the vods and give people some tips but I'm not sure what they would want to hear. As penguin already said most of it is just gonna be 'last hit better', 'ward more', 'don't be in that position and that time' etc.
I'll try and pay more attention to it in the future though

also @ Mazuran about game 3, I fully understand why you felt that game was beyond hope from your point of view and I also understand you're a bit annoyed at me not willing to surrender it, but from my perspective it was a game where I felt I could still do a lot of work and potentially turn things around because I really felt like there was that potential. I've seen much worse games than that turn around so I'm not one to give up even when stuff looks very dire. I apologize if I sounded a little cocky during the game but that's pretty much how I felt.
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BarbJ wrote:

(When I tried to post this the first time, it logged me out. Attempt #2!)

I would have maxed Q if I was going to be ganking more. But since bot lane fell so far behind before I really had the chance to try to gank, there was a Garen top (which I've never had real success ganking in normal games, he just sustains and laughs), and Khazem's major lags issues, I decided to max E for camp clearing instead.


i am under the impression maxing Q is better for clear since it runs on a lower cd. Also i don't see much point in picking maokai for clear but i guess that was a last moment decision.

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Vynertje wrote:

You were first pick that game. None of us forced you to go top because like 3 of us were like 'I don't really care what role I play'.

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I don't like the idea. I think people are over-exaggerating stuff just like I did with the Oxide vs me stuff. They just need to communicate better in stuff like "I don't want role x" or "I don't want to play vs player x because he's too high level for me to deal with".


I'm too nice for my own good pretty much. I don't like to upset other people or cause a confrontation. Half the problem is actually when people say they don't care and won't commit to anything because it just causes me to panic random for most of the pick time. Khazem didn't really say anything but I know he prefers to play mid.

I prefer not to deal with awkward champion selects which is why I don't play solo queue.
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you didn't splitpush hard enough that game. also the leona pick was a misfit.


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Pheyniex wrote:
i am under the impression maxing Q is better for clear since it runs on a lower cd. Also i don't see much point in picking maokai for clear but i guess that was a last moment decision.


I feel that E is better, but I don't know that for sure.

And I didn't pick Maokai with the intent to clear camps constantly. When I picked him, we needed a ganker, a follow up initiator to go with Malphite, and a tank. Maokai does pretty well at all those things, and it appeared that bot lane and mid would be gankable. The fact that bot lane fell behind and Khazem had computer issues was an in-game change, and nothing we could have foreseen from champion select. Had I know that in advance, I would obviously have not picked Maokai just to clear the jungle.
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Pheyniex wrote:

you didn't splitpush hard enough that game. also the leona pick was a misfit.


How is leona a misfit with Ezreal and Graves? The only problem was purple side.
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Leona works awesome with Graves and Ezreal.
I was actualy panicking a little because Gott der 7 Meere wanted to go AP Janna so badly that I couldn't play Janna in a Leona lane. But yes, blue side gave us a pretty huge advantage and we capitalised on it. Trying to keep Leona at low health so she couldn't afford to go all in.
But then again, you guys forced both Summoner's off Draven so we had a bit of a disadvantage, too.
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