Xbox One

[quote=Searz][quote=YayaFTW] But I still believe that PS stands out in terms of exclusive game quality against Xbox, which has only Halo and Forza to be proud of honestly.[/quote] They have more. You're not an Xbox gamer, so you obviously don't know or have played as many exclusives as one would do or have done. You need to work a bit on that bias of yours :P[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64][quote=ShiftyCake] [quote=DillButt64] i like how you said ps5, the ps5 isnt a thing and the ps4 only makes you pay a FIVE DOLLAR subscription if i remember correctly, and xbox live costs more, plus sony giving free online was making them lose money and its long overdue that they let people pay for the online of course in the time the ps5 comes out im sure everything will be digital so itll be NORMAL at the time the ps5 comes out (which should be out of the question itll be another 7 years at least for the next generation) [/quote] I like how you miss the point entirely. He was talking about in the future, not now for the ps5. Making a point about sony doing things after the hate dies out, like subscription. And, I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but Sony wasn't losing money over not having a subscription. If you truly believe that, then you don't understand how big companies work. They may have losses, but they're not losing money. You may get posts about money loss, sony may say they are losing money but trust me; if they really were, you wouldn't be seeing this new console. Now, after the E3 conference, it can be seen that while you still do have to pay a lot more for Xbox live, it has many more advantages. Both consoles have faults, it's simply preference. I prefer xbox, you prefer playstation. If you actually believe one is better then the other, you just become another fanboy. [/quote] how did i miss the point when i addressed that it would be NORMAL in the future if/when the ps5 does it in the future, while right now its not normal and people dont want to have things be digital only and i think i need to make myself a bit clearer about the "losing money" thing i dont mean they are literally losing money by paying for servers and letting people use them for free, i meant theyre losing money because they could be making money doing subscriptions on the ps3 since xbox has been doing it for a while and its been a normal thing to pay for online for a while now, except for the ps3 so to make myself clearerest, theyre not losing money they just havnt been making as much money as they could[/quote]

[quote=YayaFTW][quote=Searz] [quote=YayaFTW] But I still believe that PS stands out in terms of exclusive game quality against Xbox, which has only Halo and Forza to be proud of honestly.[/quote] They have more. You're not an Xbox gamer, so you obviously don't know or have played as many exclusives as one would do or have done. You need to work a bit on that bias of yours :P [/quote] I really do need to get rid of my bias, not the first time It alters my attempts to provide a good opinion :/[/quote]

[quote=ShiftyCake][quote=DillButt64] [quote=ShiftyCake] [quote=DillButt64] i like how you said ps5, the ps5 isnt a thing and the ps4 only makes you pay a FIVE DOLLAR subscription if i remember correctly, and xbox live costs more, plus sony giving free online was making them lose money and its long overdue that they let people pay for the online of course in the time the ps5 comes out im sure everything will be digital so itll be NORMAL at the time the ps5 comes out (which should be out of the question itll be another 7 years at least for the next generation) [/quote] I like how you miss the point entirely. He was talking about in the future, not now for the ps5. Making a point about sony doing things after the hate dies out, like subscription. And, I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but Sony wasn't losing money over not having a subscription. If you truly believe that, then you don't understand how big companies work. They may have losses, but they're not losing money. You may get posts about money loss, sony may say they are losing money but trust me; if they really were, you wouldn't be seeing this new console. Now, after the E3 conference, it can be seen that while you still do have to pay a lot more for Xbox live, it has many more advantages. Both consoles have faults, it's simply preference. I prefer xbox, you prefer playstation. If you actually believe one is better then the other, you just become another fanboy. [/quote] how did i miss the point when i addressed that it would be NORMAL in the future if/when the ps5 does it in the future, while right now its not normal and people dont want to have things be digital only and i think i need to make myself a bit clearer about the "losing money" thing i dont mean they are literally losing money by paying for servers and letting people use them for free, i meant theyre losing money because they could be making money doing subscriptions on the ps3 since xbox has been doing it for a while and its been a normal thing to pay for online for a while now, except for the ps3 so to make myself clearerest, theyre not losing money they just havnt been making as much money as they could [/quote] ohk, yeah I agree with that. Sony should really have done subscription base before now. and @Searz/Darcurse When did I say the XboxOne is better in my statement? I did not, in fact, half of it is talking about a huge negative of XboxOne. Don't have a dig at my logic, if you fail to use your own. I am saying that while the PS4 does NOT have a better system, it has negatives as well, the huge fault in microsofts will dissuade a lot of people from playing it. Yes, Microsoft has made a mistake, but that doesn't mean its system is any worse then PS4's. While all the other faults have justifications and reasoning's, the online-only really has no reason for it (as I stated in my post). While they continue to pressure that idea, they will lose support.[/quote]

[quote=Darcurse][quote = ShiftyCake] PS4 is not better, but they have capitalized on Microsoft's mistakes to degrade their system even further, and give the appearance of their own being better. ... So while PS4 is not better, it is true that Xbox's unnecessary online-only will dissuade a lot of their market from buying it. [/quote] You did include the word "system" in the frame line of your post, but the rest is only about Microsoft doing some mistakes about second-hand gaming (which misses the mark by far) And all in all it's just a huge mixture of "XboxOne overall > PS4 overall"[/quote]

[quote=xXShadowAssassinXx][quote=YayaFTW] Still, I'm gonna play your little game and show you that PS exclusives outshine Xbox exclusives is most of the aspects: [/quote] how can you not understand something so simple? what matters is the exclusives. what exclusives people want to play is purely subjective. more exclusives doesnt mean anything if it doesnt have the exclusives people want to play. "you want to play halo? too bad, since i think ps4 is a better console you cant buy your xbox" makes perfect sense.[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]halo is a stupid game anyways, id take ratchet and clank or sly cooper of another alien based shooter any day also YayaFTW this might be late but FF13 is on the Xbox 360, i have it so i dont think saying final fantasy is an exclusive is right and xXShadowAssassinXx the fact that the Xbox One is trying to be EVERYTHING means that there is more to look at than just exclusives[/quote]

[quote=xXShadowAssassinXx]true, but its still the determining factor. consoles are for playing games, if a console doesnt have the games you want to play then its nothing but a useless shiny brick.[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]the xbox one does so much more than games, and so does the ps4, thats what im trying to say[/quote]

[quote=caucheka][quote=DillButt64] the xbox one does so much more than games, and so does the ps4, thats what im trying to say [/quote] but most people want a gaming console, not another fucking box for tv.[/quote]