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League of Legends (LoL) Question: Need help theorycrafting an ap varus build.

Posted in Champions | Tags: Varus 5,051

  • Generic

    Need help theorycrafting an ap varus build.

    Im trying to figure out what would be the optimal ap varus build, but there are simply too many "essential" items out there

    Sorc Boots/Zerker Greaves: Pretty self explanatory, you need boots.
    Dfg: Amps blight detonation, makes your burst even more insane.
    Nashors: Works well with bonus magic dmg onhit from W, allows for fasterb blight stacks application.
    Hurricane: Spreads the blight stacks to multiple people.
    Lich Bane: Gives more burst after combo, movespeed.
    Zhonyas: Every1 need defense, also gives a ton of ap.
    Deathcap & Void staff: Pretty self explanatory.
    This leaves me with 8 items. Which ones should i use? Are there any others?
  • Answers (3)

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    Meiyjhe (539) | June 17, 2013 9:59am
    AP Varus scales from auto attacks and ultimate.
    When Varus deals damage from a spell after having auto attacked, he also deals bonus damage in %.
    AP Varus has quite long cooldowns (the shortest CD is 8 seconds).

    So what does AP Varus need?
    * Attack speed (Nashor's Tooth, Wit's End, Hurricane, Blade of the Ruined King)
    * Heavy AP (Rabadons Deathcap, Deathfire Grasp, Zhonya's Hourglass)
    * Magic penetration (Liandry's Torment, Void Staff, Sorcerer's Shoes)

    Now before you run to me and bite me in the neck, let's see how we can combine these items optimal:
    Nashor's Tooth (YES), Wit's End (Decent), Hurricane (maybe), Blade of the Ruined King (maybe)
    Rabadons Deathcap (yes), Deathfire Grasp (decent), Zhonya's Hourglass (decent)
    Liandry's Torment (no.), Void Staff (yes), Sorcerer's Shoes (yes)

    Let's combine all the yesses:
    Nashor's Tooth + Rabadons Deathcap + Void Staff + Sorcerer's Shoes

    Then pick one more AS item (I'd pick wits obviously) and finish it off with a heavy AP item. Deathfire when having no probs, Zhonyas when dying fast :P
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    OTGBionicArm (415) | June 18, 2013 12:55am
    Order I use for AP Varus is generally Nashors Dcap Zhonyas (Or void staff, if they get MR) then its pretty much usually over by that point.
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    Generic | June 17, 2013 9:34pm
    I see. What order would it be best to get them in?
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    PsiGuard (1495) | June 17, 2013 8:09pm
    DFG or Lich (not sure which, kinda depends how much front loaded burst you have and stuff). You should always get Zhonya's at some point since you're a squishy mage who has to autoattack in team fights and has no escape.
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    Generic | June 17, 2013 7:43pm
    What should i get instead of Wits End then?
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    Jovy (953) | June 17, 2013 3:28pm
    ^that's what she said
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    OTGBionicArm (415) | June 17, 2013 3:11pm
    Thats what I said
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    PsiGuard (1495) | June 17, 2013 3:11pm
    Er, not Wit's End. Meiyjhe stop confusing the citizens, lol.
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    Generic | June 17, 2013 3:03pm
    So sample build would look like this?
    -Sorc boots
    -Nashors
    -Deathcap
    -Dfg or Zhonyas
    -Wits End
    -Void Staff
    Which order would you reccomend building these items in?
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    Meiyjhe (539) | June 17, 2013 12:35pm
    Sure it does, I already explained why.
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    Kingluis (8) | June 17, 2013 12:30pm
    why do mobafire hate so much hurricanes.

    Makes no sense.
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    Meiyjhe (539) | June 17, 2013 11:07am
    Hurricane is never reliable. Never ever ever ever. Hurrican is only good if 3 enemies is within your range at all times, and even then, Wits End will still probably outclass hurricane.
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    Generic | June 17, 2013 10:56am
    Would there be any cases where it would be better to buy hurricane (e.g. AOE comp)? Or does WE just outclass it all around?
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    Meiyjhe (539) | June 17, 2013 10:34am
    Wit's end is better because hurrican is nothing but attack speed. Yes you can also hit multiple targets, but they also should all be within a certain range etc. etc. Wit's end is much more reliable. It grants attack speed, MR and magic penetration, which all are beneficial in most cases.
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    Generic | June 17, 2013 10:17am
    Sounds good. So only get dfg when dominating, otherwise get zhonyas. I suppose ap varus already deals enough damage, no need for overkill. Out of curiosity, what makes wits better than hurricane? Is it the defensive stats? Wouldnt hurricane allow a ton of AOE dmg?
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    Embracing (353) | June 18, 2013 5:09am
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    iSparklez (11) | June 18, 2013 4:29pm
    Pro AP build right here
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    mastrer1000 (134) | June 17, 2013 9:06am
    i would not go for lich bane, you need to autoattack first and then detonate your marks. hurricane maybe as last item, i don't really think this is as good as the rest.
    rabadons is essential(like really essential).
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    OTGBionicArm (415) | June 17, 2013 3:11pm
    ^ it's terrible. Varus would rather burst a single target with autos Ult, autos E. and not care about hitting multiple people
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    PsiGuard (1495) | June 17, 2013 2:51pm
    Hurricane is terrible.
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    Kingluis (8) | June 17, 2013 12:29pm
    hurrican is perhaps the NUMBER 1 needed item for a team that DO NOT HAVE aoe damage. If you go mid, and if your top, bot and jungler does not offer aoe for your teamfights, then I think hurricanes is essencial late game my sir.
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    OTGBionicArm (415) | June 17, 2013 10:53am
    No hurrican ever
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    Generic | June 17, 2013 9:18am
    So the end game build would look like this?
    Sorc boots
    dfg
    Nashors
    Zhonyas
    Deathcap
    Void staff

    So lich bane and hurricane are out? Also what order should i get the items in?
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