brk not longer that great imo

[quote=cooper56]After latest nerf i have no desire to buy it on any adc. Best part i liked was active and how it was good for dueling and escape with recent nerfs the range is just utter shit even on low range adc's it now can only be used to run away if someone is on your not offensively they need to be pretty much on top of you. Bt much better over all item for me now on twitch also since his e scales well of ad and gives more early power.[/quote]

[quote=Kazega]What about the passive? That didn't change at all. To be honest though BotRK was overpowered for its active and became a liability rather than an asset. Riot doesn't want "One way to win" strategies, and BotRK was heading in that direction.[/quote]

[quote=cooper56][quote=Kazega] What about the passive? That didn't change at all. To be honest though BotRK was overpowered for its active and became a liability rather than an asset. Riot doesn't want "One way to win" strategies, and BotRK was heading in that direction. [/quote] I would prefer passive to be nerfed i dont really care for item now and its alot weaker as early game item.[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark]It depends. Now it's much worse on Tristana and Caitlyn ( people usually took BT anyway on Cait ) but it still remains the best choice for someone with short range like Vayne. Dunno if people will still take it on Varus, but I think it will still be a strong choice on him, though I don't play him so I don't know for sure. ADC's aside, it's still strong on Jax, Irelia, WW, and any other bruiser who used to take it before. Though whether Jax and Irelia will now prefer Trinity Force before BotRK, I don't know.[/quote]

[quote=boythinks]the range nerf on the active was needed i think.. but i am a bit sad about the increased CD though...my ZED and Jax does not approve i think the BOTRK into Trinity build on Jax will be the standard.. my next jax game i will try - BOTRK > Boots> Trinity> Furor> Randuins..GA..Zephyr.. they will never EVER get away from me!!![/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]oh no the range of an item active that let you self peel people that were ontop of you! you know DFG has a shorter range than more than a few APCs right? that doesnt make it not viable of an item[/quote]

[quote=luizdeh]Range issue not that much of an issue. CD issue not that much of an issue. Still very much a good item. It just needed to be toned down a bit.[/quote]

[quote=Chrono666]for ADC only Vayne can use well. Other's ADC is better The Bloodthirster and last wisper work better. Top laner's like Tryndamere, Wukong, Jayce, Zed, Xin zhaos and any other got gap close still work. Sorry for bad english.[/quote]

[quote=Shuru]BOTRK was an item designed to help Peel, help sustain, and help chase. Nothings changed except that you can't use it outside of some ADC's range. Vayne could glue to you from OUTSIDE of her attack range with it. The item was overpowered because it was an end all be all must have on a lot of champions. Botrk let you chase people running, burst people, sustain though things you usually cant, do self peel, and so on. it basically was to much in one item to have at a high range and low cooldown.[/quote]

[quote=animorte]That's the only problem with most everything Riot fixes about items and champions. They find multiple problems and instead of finding a healthy median, the nerf all plausible aspects. That's what they did with [[Hextech Gunblade]] a long time ago. Two made [[Akali]] unstoppable so they made it unique AND nerfed damage on it. They nerfed range AND CD on BOTRK. Fine by me. :P[/quote]