idea for a new battle system in LOL

[quote=tehAsian][[leblanc]] and [[kassadin]] would be OP as fuck on this map.[/quote]

[quote=MyBloodisBlack][quote=remrem513] you should post this on the league forums if u havent already ^-^ [/quote] Just did thank you for the suggestion[/quote]

[quote=MyBloodisBlack][quote=tehAsian] [[leblanc]] and [[kassadin]] would be OP as fuck on this map. [/quote] I am sure some champions will be better than others, this is nothing new because you get the same in all maps, I seen champions that are superior in Rift fail in ARAM and visa versa for example.[/quote]

[quote=sirell]I find this idea kind of fun in some ways. I always imagined a free-for-all on LoL to kind of be like Super Smash Bros, where you have lives and last one standing wins (I don't like playing timer, last one standing is much more exciting). Another concept could be like the Hunger games where you all struggle for survival and also try and secure objectives, like relic points in Dominion where you get buffs, except these are out in the open where you can get sniped. Similar stuff to the old Twisted Treeline where you had the buffs on the creep camps might be a pretty neat idea. It should also make for a very interesting picks/bans. It'll render some abilities kind of pointless, since you're all vying for survival. It'll render champions like [[sona]] kind of unpickable.[/quote]

[quote=MyBloodisBlack][quote=sirell] It'll render some abilities kind of pointless, since you're all vying for survival. It'll render champions like [[sona]] kind of unpickable. [/quote] Not necessarily, the beauty of this is that its points based rather than who got the most kills, for example you may play Yi and you might get 2 kills 2 assists 2 KS but 2 deaths and last 18 minutes which would equal 25 points however sona might go around getting 0 kills 5 assists 1 KS 0 deaths and last the full match and she would have 27 pts and may very well win :) Its all about using the champions strengths to your advantage in this map[/quote]

[quote=sirell]Because a [[sona]] can deal that much damage to score the majority of the points on a kill, right? If the mathematics is based on who deals the most damage despite assists/kills, then champions with low damage output will always be at a disadvantage. The maths would also be extremely difficult to calculate. Such a balancing idea as you are trying to figure out is still not going to work all that effectively. The reason I highlight [[sona]] in particular is that only her Q and ultimate are able to target enemies. Since it's a free-for-all, the only one affected by her remaining two abilities is herself. The natural advantage of being [[sona]] is essentially lost. I think KS-ing should actually give you extra points, because it's just such an uncertain method to secure points. In an all-out brawl, getting that last hit out of the 2-3 other players in a fight could prove to be very difficult. The easiest way might honestly be just to go draft pick only and by a points system via KDA ratio. Or by last one standing. The map could also gradually decrease in size, so participants have an ever-increasing chance of finding each other and we don't get this bs of champions running around headless whilst [[teemo]] camps one bush for 55 mins, waiting for everyone to kill each other.[/quote]

[quote=MyBloodisBlack][quote=sirell] Because a [[sona]] can deal that much damage to score the majority of the points on a kill, right? If the mathematics is based on who deals the most damage despite assists/kills, then champions with low damage output will always be at a disadvantage. The maths would also be extremely difficult to calculate. Such a balancing idea as you are trying to figure out is still not going to work all that effectively. The reason I highlight [[sona]] in particular is that only her Q and ultimate are able to target enemies. Since it's a free-for-all, the only one affected by her remaining two abilities is herself. The natural advantage of being [[sona]] is essentially lost. I think KS-ing should actually give you extra points, because it's just such an uncertain method to secure points. In an all-out brawl, getting that last hit out of the 2-3 other players in a fight could prove to be very difficult. The easiest way might honestly be just to go draft pick only and by a points system via KDA ratio. Or by last one standing. The map could also gradually decrease in size, so participants have an ever-increasing chance of finding each other and we don't get this bs of champions running around headless whilst [[teemo]] camps one bush for 55 mins, waiting for everyone to kill each other. [/quote] I do hear you and I do think that the idea does have some issues that may require ironing out especially with the likes of [[Sona]] abilities, it may come down to get a support and healing whoever you want, end of the day its not about the KILLS its all about the points. The Reason I decided against having Killsteal gaining extra is it would be an unfair game then, Allow me to put it this way, if you are in a tough match one on one and you are now close to winning, then suddenly a [[Akali]] for example walks into the battle, does an auto attack to kill the opponent (doing what? 40 DMG)that would unfair I feel I think its very fair that I gave 2 points for killstealing because then those who worked hard are awarded 3 points as an "Assist" whilst people trying to 'steal' 5 points are only given 2 points.[/quote]

[quote=luizdeh]Seems cool to brawl in such a way, but ten people is too much I think. Make it a smaller map with 8 peeps. Also, supports in this map are gonna suffer, unless you play an extremely tanky [[taric]] with heaps of mana that runs around trying to follow up in fights for a KS then flees or some shit like that. I would play this map, just for the chaotic fights. Also, MPen [[mundo]] with [[sunfire cape]] and [[ghost]] will make everybody cry.[/quote]