almost anyone can be a support

[quote=sirell][[master yi]] support. Discuss.[/quote]

[quote=Werepirelord]Doubtful, since he relies on taking almost every kill and has little to no cc to offer. Also even with support gold increasing having a melee support with no ranged capabilities and no cc who can quite frankly be ignored when he builds tanky is kinda useless. Especially since he gets 0 farm. I'd be interrested to see support [[Nautilus]] who can easily perform some mid ganks and has a gigantic amount of cc.[/quote]

[quote=MyBloodisBlack]I get the inpression that there should be a feature on mobafire for me so that whenever I post it asks if I really wanna give my own opinion - own opinion may cause you to look stupid in front of peers...are you sure you wanna post?[/quote]

[quote=Bludes][quote=OTGBionicArm] They are already good, Bludes. We're talking about off-meta (currently) supports like [/quote] Oh okay, I meant that they don't fit in those 3 categories :3[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]I think with the new items what might happen is bruiser + support bot, adc top, ap mid. I mean think about this new item, Face of the Mountain. It has good stats for most bruisers (hp and cdr + a shield scaling on max hp). You execute minions under 200 hp, and that can heal your lanemate if the passive isn't on cd (you get 4 charges which recharge every 30 seconds). Your lane mate gets kill gold + 10. Relic Shield is actually a fairly decent starting item since you can get a couple of health pots along with it. Bruiser + support is also probably more helpful for dragon fights since supports like Lulu really enjoy having a bruiser with them.[/quote]

[quote=I post stuff]Support [[poppy]] is the best.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000][quote=Joxuu] These ideas, suggestions, discussions start to piss me off really. Because supports can afford a little more items, suddenly everyone is support ? The current S3 meta supports will stay as "core/meta" supports. I can see few power spikes for [[annie]] supports for example, but heck with the idea of anyone being support. It's the overall kit that matters. If you have 1 CC ability, that doesn't mean that you can go support and be viable or useful. Usually these new support champions and experiments cause lane to fail. [/quote] This is pretty much exactly what I'm afraid is going to happen as soon as the patch hits. Everyone's going to pick the most ridiculous shit they can think of on the grounds that "herpa derp I getz moni now maestro yi supot is totely viabl" and then I'm going to have to lane with it. [quote=Nighthawk]I think with the new items what might happen is bruiser + support bot, adc top, ap mid.[/quote] ADC top doesn't really work, you get wrecked by the jungler. And I don't really see how bruiser + support would suddenly become better than ADC + support seeing as bruisers aren't getting changed at all. Double bruiser maybe but I'm sorta doubting it.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje][quote=Bludes] [quote=OTGBionicArm] They are already good, Bludes. We're talking about off-meta (currently) supports like [/quote] Oh okay, I meant that they don't fit in those 3 categories :3 [/quote] They do offer a darn lot of utility and CC which is why they are a good support. They are mostly regarded as kill lanes though.[/quote]

[quote=Bioalchemist]every champ? i think not...but with the new gold building it does open the door to a handful that could be efficient supports.[/quote]

[quote=Werepirelord][quote]ADC top doesn't really work, you get wrecked by the jungler. And I don't really see how bruiser + support would suddenly become better than ADC + support seeing as bruisers aren't getting changed at all. Double bruiser maybe but I'm sorta doubting it. [/quote] Whilst you are right in your general point, I'd have to say that [[Quinn]] makes for an exceptional counter to almost every melee carry out there who plans on going top.[/quote]