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LCS players not allowed to stream competing games

Creator: Kazega December 5, 2013 3:26pm
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I'd also like to add: they are under contract. I, myself, have a contract with my work. I can't work under a competing company while I work with my current company. It's called a conflict of interest. It only makes sense that this sort of contract would exist for electronic jobs too.

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2. External Work/ ‘Second Job’ or Business
You must devote the whole of your time and attention during working hours to the business of OSHClub and at such other times as reasonably necessary to properly perform your duties.
You must not, without fully informed consent by OSHClub, engage in any other employment or contracting work, or conduct any business outside of OSHClub, which may interfere with your employment with OSHClub.
This will include any work or business which could lead to:
a. A conflict of interest (or a perception of conflict), such as working for a competitor of OSHClub or
b. Absenteeism, inability to meet job requirements, poor job performance, or a reduction in effective and efficient job performance.
c. The taking of sick/carers/personal leave from OSHClub to work at an external place of employment at the same time as your regular shift, if evidence of illness is not provided and the perception of a conflict exists, termination of employment may result.
Employees who are considering external work who breach this policy must advise their immediate line manager so that any potential conflicts can be assessed and to ensure that employees do not compromise their duty to act in the best interests of OSHClub.

A lot of the clauses above make even more sense for video gaming.
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^ i would rep you for that wise adult statement..but...like...whats the point at this time with 1719 rep? LOL


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Let's look at it a different way:

Twitch.tv/lagtvmaximusblack

This guy is a top 200 Starcraft player.
He streams the game almost everyday.
He often gets matched against pro players when he ladders as well.
He is sponsored, and the only thing that stops him from being a "real" pro is a contract with a team.
When he isn't streaming Starcraft he is either streaming some other game, he plays Hearthstone and other random titles
He also records shout casts with Novawar for their YouTube channel. (youtube.com/user/LifesAGlitchTV)

Now what if the guys at Blizzard just start saying something along these lines. Granted the man isn't technically a pro, but if that thing started blocking his path to be a pro... I'm not sure what he would do. It isn't fair to anyone to say that.
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Kazega wrote:
Granted the man isn't technically a pro

There's your answer. He's not employed by Blizzard to be a professional xxx game player. He is self employed through streaming. If you sign a contract with a company, you're supposed to stick to the fine script. If he wanted to be a pro xxx player with Blizzard, and be paid wages for playing xxx game, he'll do that. Judging by what you've said though, sounds like he's happy to have a dozen or so individual money-earning endeavors.

Because that's what this comes down to. It's money. Streamers don't HAVE to stream. They do it for money. Streamers can still play whatever games they want, just turn off the stream when they're playing a game that creates a conflict with their contract.

Simple.

It's not about fairness. It's about a legal binding document.
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He is still a top 200 player though. I am sure he has been considered for Grandmaster League in the past but I can't think of any good reason why he wasn't in the league as such. It was a bad example I guess

Plus you all the other Solo Q and 5Q challengers. Are they bound by this since they have a shot at being in the LCS.
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Kazega wrote:
all the other Solo Q and 5Q challengers. Are they bound by this since they have a shot at being in the LCS.

No, they can stream what they want. They're not employed by Riot to play League of Legends. If they were employed by Riot to play League of Legends, that's what they'd play and stream.

What's so hard to understand? :P
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That's another thing. They aren't employed by Riot. They are under contract by their respective teams.
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Then it depends on what their contract dictates.
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*sigh*

Ok. I wasn't saying g that Riot is wrong for doing this. But I don't think it's what Riot should be doing. Gaming should be about games. If Dyrus wanted to spend a day streaming some random game just because he should be able to do that with out having to resort to having a second Twitch account or whatever. It doesn't really matter if someone would lose views for playing something else, real fans of the player would still watch him because "hey, it would be fun to see if Dyrus could do some simple Starcraft strategies or try to cheese some random person"

The faces of League should be fun to watch because they are having fun with the games they play. Not because Riot wants to shelter the kid from the "bad guys" and keep LoL "pure"
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If these League pros are actually bound to a contract, i'm actually interested in seeing what benefits they get for having their pool of stream-able activities restricted.

I believe that most of the pro team's success has come from merit - like winning League qualifiers, rather than through securities in contracts. Idk if there's much (if anything) riot offers as compensation for this restriction
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