Jackies Rubino's Hobo Adventure to Challenged Tier

[quote=NateDog13]Nerfs on Khazix wont make a difference, know why? Because people said the nerfs on zed would kill him. And to those people who still believe that, I drop this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBOSEuLM1Rs[/quote]

[quote=Ubnoxius]It made [[zed]] quite a bit harder to play, alough some people have worked around it I find that [[zed]] was so much more dominant before 3.13 than he is now[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=Ubnoxius] It made [[zed]] quite a bit harder to play, alough some people have worked around it I find that [[zed]] was so much more dominant before 3.13 than he is now [/quote] Well the ult is now less consistent in damage but gives him some nice outplay potential. I really love that change.[/quote]

[quote=Jack Rubino]Well with zed i didnt find any problems after the nerf, i didnt play him much before, but i got really nice results as him after that. Also i can imagine what you mean talking about the damage on midlane, but i cant really tell since i dont play, or at least didnt play much, [[Kha'zix]] on midlane. Maybe just cuz i dont like the fact of getting out ranged/poked/kited that much and prefer a lane where i can farm/go in/escape easier(well, top lane isnt the best to escape from prolly) Talking about my rank journey: [img=http://i.imgur.com/72Bdsy7.png] dat doge, many stacks, much damage, wow. i was able to deal more then half life to ziggs with only 1 q lol, had around 600 stacks when the game ended[/quote]

[quote=Wayne3100][quote=NateDog13] Nerfs on Khazix wont make a difference, know why? Because people said the nerfs on zed would kill him. And to those people who still believe that, I drop this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBOSEuLM1Rs [/quote] Oh man, who would've thought a fed assassin could still deal damage even after being nerfed :P In all seriousness though, yes you're right, [[Zed]] wasn't killed, but that doesn't mean it's not still a nerf, right? Why isn't he picked in almost every game anymore? And how can we be sure nerfs to [[Kha'Zix]] won't matter if we don't even know what the nerfs will be yet? :| @ Jack Rubino You should feel bad for playing that champ >:( [h5]oh and also I wouldnt build frozen mallet[/h5][/quote]

[quote=Jack Rubino][quote=Wayne3100] @ Jack Rubino You should feel bad for playing that champ >:( [/quote] cuz free lp farmer? :O [quote=Wayne3100] [h5]oh and also I wouldnt build frozen mallet[/h5] [/quote] i never build it but since i had enough shitons of hp which didnt get low, without taking in consideration the ultimate, i just wanted something to be more swag tankyness/damage, also i like the op chasing of nasus with theese 2 items + w lol, but yeah, its not that great cuz we didnt really had to chase anyone, just kept sieging their base and killing them with our cc, could go for something like ravenous in such situation? lol[/quote]

[quote=Hannul][quote=NateDog13] Nerfs on Khazix wont make a difference, know why? Because people said the nerfs on zed would kill him. And to those people who still believe that, I drop this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBOSEuLM1Rs [/quote] Yes, it's just like the [[rengar]] nerf with same ratios. His q went from 1.5 to 1.0, same with [[kha zix]] from 1.5 to 2.2 isolated to 0.9 to 1.5 isolated. idk why they changed leap from 0.8 to 0.4, but you'll be living longer with 60% damage reduction on evolved void assault[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark]I doubt those Kha changes are going to go through, those are some harsh as fuck number changes. He literally won't even be an assassin anymore if they do, he'll be played as a bruiser with those ratios.[/quote]

[quote=NateDog13][quote=Wayne3100] [quote=NateDog13] Nerfs on Khazix wont make a difference, know why? Because people said the nerfs on zed would kill him. And to those people who still believe that, I drop this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBOSEuLM1Rs [/quote] Oh man, who would've thought a fed assassin could still deal damage even after being nerfed :P In all seriousness though, yes you're right, [[Zed]] wasn't killed, but that doesn't mean it's not still a nerf, right? Why isn't he picked in almost every game anymore? And how can we be sure nerfs to [[Kha'Zix]] won't matter if we don't even know what the nerfs will be yet? :| @ Jack Rubino You should feel bad for playing that champ >:( [h5]oh and also I wouldnt build frozen mallet[/h5] [/quote] The reason being Zed isn't picked all the time anymore is because he actually requires in depth knowledge to play. It's the same reason you don't see a ton of Leblancs running around even though its played a bunch in lcs. Its also why you don't see people play a ton of olaf. Each of these champions has roles that can either only be filled by higher level knowledge and mass amount of practice, or just get used better in premade 5v5 play yaknow? That goes towards a ton of other champions too, the most prominent picks from the LCS being Xerath (Wooo Hotshot <3) and Urgot/Soraka bot (looking at you EG, well played). Regardless though, you will still see these champions played, just not as often :D.[/quote]

[quote=Jack Rubino]This malzhar had the nice idea of getting tired of playing when he was 1 2, feeding like hell both jungler and mid (nida dealt like 1000+ damage with spear in mid game] and kept saying "we cant win cuz no tanks surr at 20" and things like that, and he played like if he was 0 100 0 since the lane started, for an eventually quit. (he didnt even helped to def nexus when enemies were pushing, and we didnt lost that time, but later). [img=http://i.imgur.com/K3vgdQ3.png][/quote]