SoloQ Support

[quote=Inquisitor_Kane]Ok, just come down here and show me how. :) What good is to initiate, when your ADC and jungler runs away, letting you die alone in 1v3, that could easily be 3v3 skirmish? What good is to throw a lantern, if they don't click it, dies, then told you you are a low support? What good is to ping the tower with about 600hp and start tanking it, if everyone just goes away to clear the jungle or recall, while you take 3 shots that gets you to 30% hp, without dealing nearly any dmg to the tower? What good is to sacrifice yourself, so your team mate can escape from sticky situation (like 2v4 and such), just to see them come back to get 2 AA on the enemy team and die as well (while you wasted ulti and exhaust just to save them)? And the list goes on and on... I believe form gold league you can make an impact, as more people have common sense and understand the game a little bit more. But down here, it is all about carrying yourself out of the bronze/silver league. Unless youa have duo partner or are extremly lucky in matchmaking, you can't carry as a support. I saw it in rankeds, and see it in normals. Your numbers won't change that, I'm afraid. Btw what are those numbers? What do they mean? And from what league it is? What was the enemy team? Was their team coperative? How many trolls were there in both teams? Pity those numbers won't tell you that. :([/quote]

[quote=sirell]It means I carried myself from Silver to Gold V mostly using [[leona]]. Making me an EXACT counter-example to what you just said. But if you want more valid statistics, then Vyn plays a lot of support games at Diamond/Plat level, too. Say what you want about teammates not following up, I've clearly got more games that say this is not the case than is the case.[/quote]

[quote=Jovy]All of the situations you listed can be solved with good communication and smart use of pings.[/quote]

[quote=Jimmydoggga 2.0][quote=Inquisitor_Kane] What good is to initiate, when your ADC and jungler runs away, letting you die alone in 1v3, that could easily be 3v3 skirmish? [/quote] What. [quote=Inquisitor_Kane] What good is to throw a lantern, if they don't click it, dies, then told you you are a low support? [/quote] No rly. [quote=Inquisitor_Kane] What good is to ping the tower with about 600hp and start tanking it, if everyone just goes away to clear the jungle or recall, while you take 3 shots that gets you to 30% hp, without dealing nearly any dmg to the tower? [/quote] I dont want to get promoted into your league anytime soon. QQ[/quote]

[quote=Pheyniex][quote=MissMaw] All of the situations you listed can be solved with good communication and smart use of pings. [/quote] read: not have miss maw in your team.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000][quote=Pheyniex] [quote=MissMaw] All of the situations you listed can be solved with good communication and smart use of pings. [/quote] read: not have miss maw in your team. [/quote] having missmaw on your team instantly ends the game in a victory But yeah, supports have plenty of impact. Laning phase is like 70/30 Support/AD and CC supports especially have good playmaking ability.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard][quote=MissMaw] All of the situations you listed can be solved with good communication and smart use of pings. [/quote] I know that feel. [h5]admittedly, I mostly carried myself with [[Karma]]...[s]and also [[Shyvana]][/h5][/s][/quote]

[quote=utopus][quote=pheyniex] read: not have miss maw in your team.[/quote] Shots fired!!! :O To be honest, I don't know how support players can make plays. Whenever I talk with OTG (he was online today btw), he just tells me that leona is the easiest support to play, because all you have to do is lance the ADC, and you usually get a kill/burn flash. I definitely don't have it as easy. Whenever i get a nice lance on an ADC, my lane partner doesn't show up until i'm already getting rekt. I only play supports that i know i can make plays with. If you don't trust your team, i suggest playing supports that don't rely as much on your teammates - like blitzcrank, and annie[/quote]

[quote=Teemoshy][quote=utopus] To be honest, I don't know how support players can make plays. Whenever I talk with OTG (he was online today btw), he just tells me that leona is the easiest support to play, because all you have to do is lance the ADC, and you usually get a kill/burn flash. I definitely don't have it as easy. Whenever i get a nice lance on an ADC, my lane partner doesn't show up until i'm already getting rekt. [/quote] You made a play by jump stunning the enemy ADC. Your carry just didn't have any reactionary skills, obviously. Also, Leona's ult is a ranged AoE stun with immense initiation potential, thus plays are made. Just get a duo partner that you can communicate with rather than hoping your ADC has eyes.[/quote]

[quote=utopus]Meh, if i have a duo partner, i'd much rather be jungler - junglers have much more play making potential during the laning phase[/quote]