7.4 Tier List + AMA

[quote=Cooper112]Elder Lizard might need nerf most of all top junglers build it its best item right now get it and thats all dmg you really need best junglers seem be champs that use that item well. Not sure how they nerf it or buff other items without making it trash again maybe nerf burn dmg slightly. Riot has reworked wriggles like 100 times now all they need to do is simple make it better late game item slot wriggles just gives shit stats and other jungle items are really good even 40 mins in i mean tenacity, really good dmg on champs who can apply the burn with abilities then there is wriggles...[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]If elder lizard gets nerfed in any significant way jungle will become a fuckton weaker. Junglers get more gold now but still not enough to keep them afloat without very cost efficient items.[/quote]

[quote=utopus][quote=Cooper112] Elder Lizard might need nerf most of all top junglers build it its best item right now get it and thats all dmg you really need best junglers seem be champs that use that item well. Not sure how they nerf it or buff other items without making it trash again maybe nerf burn dmg slightly. Riot has reworked wriggles like 100 times now all they need to do is simple make it better late game item slot wriggles just gives shit stats and other jungle items are really good even 40 mins in i mean tenacity, really good dmg on champs who can apply the burn with abilities then there is wriggles... [/quote] I think the way to go about this is actually reducing the price of wriggles, instead of nerfing SotEL[/quote]

[quote=BlueArtist]Reducing price of wriggles doesn't help a single bit.[/quote]

[quote=BlueArtist]I had expected a fluctuation in pick rates of kha after the nerfs. Seemed pretty harsh on his Q at first, but it doesn't seem to do much right now. Kha is still pretty much dominating, you could say in my silver tier its still picked as often as before. inb4 kha[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Actually, there is a lategame upgrade to [[wriggle's lantern]] incoming...[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]Wriggles just sucks. Would buy it if it was 475g though.[/quote]

[quote=Fat_fast]Wriggle sux, the sustain is just too low. The fix does give it some fighting stat while coming at a lower price than spirit but it is still rather sub-optimal. Guess it's only good on WW then.[/quote]

[quote=utopus]Boom. Got approval from a diamond #feelinglikeawizard[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Not only on WW, it is usefull on any champ that wants damage from the jungle item but scales better with [[wriggle's lantern]] than [[spirit of the elder lizard]]. So basically, every jungler which relies onto attack speed to clear. That and the AS rune buffs help aswell.[/quote]