PBE Notes

[quote=caucheka][quote=luizdeh]Anyime a [[feral flare]]ian popped up in my games I'd just ask everybody to help neutralize it. There was a counter to it, which was early pressure, winning lanes hard and early, deep wards (always tho) and counter-jungling. Not to mention the power difference between a Wriggle's carry vs a SotEL early-mid game. [/quote] woah there buddy you seriously suggesting i do anything but farm creeps and waste my time shutting down enemy jungler? feral flare was toxic anyway there was literally no way to counter it, best to get rid of it imo[/quote]

[quote=SkidmarkD]Sure there was. Prevent the enemy jungler from farming. Get your FF at 15 mins, hold the enemy off till he gets his waaaaay past 20 mins. GG, u win.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=SkidmarkD] Sure there was. Prevent the enemy jungler from farming. Get your FF at 15 mins, hold the enemy off till he gets his waaaaay past 20 mins. GG, u win. [/quote] RIP in pieces sarcasm. But, why shouldn't someone who was allowed to farm freely for 20+ minutes be strong? The "old" Feral Flare did that. This one still does, but to a [b]way[/b] lesser extent.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]because flare basically promoted afk jungle farming which was bad because you aren't ganking lanes. i don't know how many times i played flarewick and people got upset that i wasnt constantly ganking when a) im fucking ww and b) im building flare lemme get my stacks[/quote]

[quote=luizdeh][quote=GrandmasterD] Back when he still had the silence I would've agreed, but right now not anymore; his utility went down significantly with the silence removal. [/quote] Good point. I concede. @caucheka: New jungle ways, same old problems. People have trouble adapting to something new if isn't related to their role and or playstyle. Which sometimes is a good thing, like with mid/top [[soraka]] that didn't make quite an impact in the BR soloQ. Simple shift in mentality works wonders: we got a FF jungler and they don't = play safer, ward more. But hey, who really wants to adapt to a teammate, right?![/quote]

[quote=caucheka]honestly its why i hardly play league anymore, its purposefully so stale and monotonous every game the same thing over and over any new strategy that pops up gets instantly nerfed along with any champions or items that enabled that. i would spend 20 minutes in a teambuilder so i could be sure we had a decent team for jungle twitch, stating numerous times i was jungle twitch with feral flare and team rages the whole time in game that i'm jungling adc and that i'm not ganking enough. either that or any build or playstle thats not 100% to the meta is a troll that should be reported.[/quote]

[quote=jamespongebob]Changes: [[blitzcrank]] [[cho'gath]] [[malzahar]] [[soraka]] [[tristana]] I just want to know your opinions. Should I also post changes that relate to game modes outside of Summoner's Rift?[/quote]

[quote=LevasK]I think you should.There are probably some people here who care about changes to Dom/TT.[/quote]

[quote=luizdeh][quote=LevasK] I think you should.There are probably some people here who care about changes to Dom/TT. [/quote] What? You serious? PICS OR GTFO! Thank the heavens for [[soraka]] nerfs... by heavens I do NOT mean Morello, aka I don't like Irelia, with the Nerfhammer in Riot HQ. Nerf is sensible, deserved and balanced. If that was him he was high. Every other change is meh.[/quote]

[quote=Eistod]The nerf to her Starcall seems pretty hard.[/quote]