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Frustrating Problems in your games

Creator: BlueArtist June 17, 2014 2:48am
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Being a Silver player for almost two years, I have been struggling to climb the ladder. Many issues I see while in silver I have found to be similar, or even identical to those I have found when I was in Bronze.

The things I have observed in silver is people having really bad engages, tower diving recklessly and blowing cooldowns early. Not only so, map awareness is really lacking and the mental strength being too weak.

For example, I see a Leona Zenith Blade's into enemies while her team is very far behind, Diving a full health Renekton as two squishy, low health champions with little-to-no damage and most commonly I see people blowing many aoe ults like Orianna's Shockwave / Sona's Crescendo on a champion that is bound to be dead just to try and "make sure he dies", which causes the next team fight to have to important spells available. Also, if someone loses his/her lane and goes "GG" in chat, and start giving up by afk-ing or trolling, and start blaming everyone else for not helping.

Certain players in Silver simply lack the skill. They tend to feed extremely hard, and have negative attitudes and they dont give a f**k about the games. For example the two below:

Not to mention Sivir went on to ask us to "Deal with it".

I have become extremely frustrated when the listed problems appear and plague my games, when they cause my games to be lost frequently. No, my scores are generally good and I help my team out during laning as much as possible; but the attitudes and unwilling to take in advices is what I cannot change.

I believe myself to have better skill than most in my league, when generally I could know my priorities, have decent shot-callings and also have certain mechanics. Here I would like to discuss the most prominent problems you encounter in any level of games and stuff I can do to, really, get out of silver.
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It's not your allies it's you. LoL is not a mechanically intensive game, it's a cerebral one. How often do you watch informative streamers? How often do you watch LCS/OGN? My guess is you dont. If you want to get better, you need to find out what better is (like not building ff/bt jungle lee sin). When I look back on where I was and where I am now, I don't feel smarter, just less dumb. This game is really simple, you just have to take the time to learn it. And you can't do that by playing 1000s of games the same way you always have.

The thing is there's no secret potion that gets you out of elo hell. Getting carried to gold won't help you either, this just means you become the hell for other players. I have the mechanics of a bronze or silver player but I can go 10-0 anytime. I can even start lane 0-3 and end up 11-3-15. So basically, realize you can't control your teammates, instead focus on your own mistakes. When you die, analyze why you died and try and fix it. Same for a teamfight. As far as streams go obviously OGN/montecristo. NA lcs is more informative imo but EU casters are decent to start out with. For streamers I watched a lot of wings/odd one but unfortunately now they can get a bit salty.
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^i really love well thought indepth comments that thoroughly read the op and realise that a team game is all about one person.


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These kind of things are only problematic if you're not significantly better than the teammates you're playing with / opponents you're facing. Everyone has games that are unwinnable (because luck unfortunately is a factor in this game, especially when it comes to which teammates you get), but those games shouldn't determine whether a player is able to climb or not - they only slow down the process for those who deserve to do so.

Don't worry about it, focus on improving.

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Try your absolute best to not make the same mistakes they do. Eventually it'll get to the point where you can carry better, then you'll find yourself winning games that were considered hopeless.
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I've been playing this game for about a year now, and I am now in Bronze 1, trying desperately to get into Silver 5. If my team loses due to us getting honestly outplayed, then I'm fine. But then, there are those games that are really frustrating, to where we could have easily won if that one person didn't end up losing lane horribly, or going AFK for 10 minutes, or flaming so hard they're toxic to your team. Sometimes, I do get so incredibly frustrated that I swear, steam comes out pouring out my ears sometimes.

Even after those games, I've only come to learn that you have to keep going. You'll come across trolls, idiots, bad builds, and every other kind of person you can meet. You'll lose about as many games as you win. You'll have long periods of losing streaks, and long periods of winning streaks.

If you have a bad game, admit it. Maybe you dove into wrong situations. Maybe you keep going for that one extra kill, and end up running into their entire team. Don't blame your teammates for your mistakes.

If you are having a good game, but your team isnt, then stay quiet. Just do your job to the best of your ability, and hope you can come out carrying with your team at your back. You have no clue how many times I have lost a game due to one person carrying their entire team, while the rest of their team just plays support.

Then, watch the pros. You know those matches they show in the top left hand corner of the client? Those games are normally games for High ranked Platinum and up, even Challenger ranked players, and its all Solo queue. Watch those matches, especially if they have one with a champ you enjoy playing. Study how that player acts with that champ, what they build, and how they interact with their team. You will learn alot just from watching those matches.

But yeah, thats the only thing you can do. Just keep going.
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Adding on to what nebrasketball said, it's important to apply that kind of reasoning to everything that happens in the game. For every single event that happens in a game, you need to ask yourself, "is there anything i can do to benefit me or my team, knowing this information?".

After playing many games, I can tell you that the answer 90% of the time is yes, and that the other 10% of the time, you just can't find a good answer to the circumstance. For example, if i am a bot lane support, and my opposing jungler shows himself top, I would autoattack my creep wave, and try to push my opponents to tower, where it is easy to poke them down, as well as damage your opponents' tower, which would ultimately make it easier for you to pressure dragon. By the time the jungler gets remotely close to your bot lane, the wave will have already pushed to tower, reset, and will be pushing slowly to your tower area. Because their jungler will be demotivated from coming bot lane, you can indicate to your mid laner that their jungler is more likely to gank them from the top side of their lane, rather than the bottom side, and that they should ward the appropriate death brush in the river. This ultimately allows for a more aggressive playstyle by your own mid laner, and could possibly set up a successful roaming gank bot, depending on whether your mid laner leaves lane at the right time

While this kind of deduction is hard to do on the spot, rest assured that it's something that you can easily pick up over time.

The way i got out of silver and gold was by asking myself two questions. Those questions were,
1. "What did I do wrong? What should I have done instead?"
2. "What could I have done at this particular moment in the game, that I didn't do? Why did I do action X? Why do i think that action Y could have been better than action X?"

You should always have an answer to these two questions. By refusing to answer these two questions after each game, you will hinder the degree to which you improve greatly.
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At Silver/Bronze, you can do various things if you apply your game knowledge. One of the easiest things you can do as a jungler/midlaner, if you gain enough jungle knowledge, is make the enemy jungler's life a living hell with deep wards and early killings. Most junglers at that level barely leave their jungle side or ward it appropriately because they think they're invulnerable.

My bf used to do this a lot with LeBlanc: he'd ward the enemy buff he though was gonna be done second, and if he saw them low when they went for it he'd just roam there and kill them. It didn't work 100% of the time, but he never really died for it. The enemy midlaner will just call MIA and think their job is done anyway.

Lee Sin, Rengar and Xin Zhao, per example, are level 2 junglers that can invade many other junglers on their second buff due to their sticking power and early damage ( Rengar can pretty much invade any jungler except Fiddlesticks unless he blows the W cooldown). Popular junglers that are pretty susceptible to invades at level 2 are Evelynn, Elise, Wukong, Master Yi, Vi.

Camping lanes/roamcamp are also pretty effective at silver/gold/low plat. You can easily raise the frustration levels of other players if you continuously kill them/deny them peace. At lower levels, this will lead them to do really stupid ****. Even more, if you continuously kill players (at lower levels) who are using high damage champs, this will provoke a weird effect where they'll be behind but they often don't even realize it; they're so used to having X power at a certain level that, even doing bad, they have no idea how much damage they're actually dealing/taking.

I'd say that abusing (not verbally, derp) other people really helps take you out of lower elos. Rustle them jimmies!
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yo guys this thread was over a month old
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Vynertje wrote:
yo guys this thread was over a month old


I was having weird Deja Vu until I saw my post.
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