"Never build athene's at all"


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Selfie (one of the best european mids) seems to disagree with you. Not saying it's a must buy, but it's definitely a good item in certain situations.

Ohai Midnight :L

You decided to publish an Ahri guide? y u no tell me? :< You can just contact me on Skype and I can help you out with most of the guide stuff if you'd like me to.

That being said, if you want this to be a serious guide you gotta be prepared to put some effort into it. I'll bring you around the basics for coding your guide.

As I said, if they're building it wrong anyway, then they're not using your guide.

If they ARE using your guide and you don't list it as an item to use, then they won't use it.

If you really have to list items not to use, then at least just list items that players might accidentally build on a regular basis, like Rod of Ages. I mean, who ever builds Ravenous Hydra or Thornmail on Ahri anyway? Hell, I don't even see Rod of Ages on her much either.

Also, Athene's Unholy Grail still has its place even after its nerf. Sure, it may not be a must-build if you're doing alright, but the CDR is really nothing to sniff at. More spells, higher waveclear and the mana regen to back it up. If you're behind, this will let you turtle up quite effectively.

The "Don't Build" is part of the guide. I've seen people building RoA and Liandries on Ahri, when they just don't work at all compared to other items. A guide should include advice on things to do as well as things to not do, especially if the things not to do might not be obvious to every single player. That being said, I removed Thornmail and Hydra. Yeah, pretty sure every player should know to not build them.

As an example, the note for Heimerdinger matchup specifies that you shouldn't jump onto him, because he'll just combo this. Not every player might realise that jumping on Heim is a bad idea at first - "Hey, he's on half HP and is squishy, I can kill him if I jump on him!" *gets full combo'd*

Also, people shouldn't blindly follow guides to the letter. I'll edit the intro to specify that...

You should also remove the 'don't build' section, lol. Obviously if it's not in your guide, people following the guide won't build it anyway, lulz.

I removed the "Situational Items" section since people can't handle it, apparently. :I

Also cleaned up some stuff and added notes.

Edit:

Remove the "don't build these" as well. Items that you don't build don't belong anywhere on your guide anyway. They're also pretty random, Athene's Unholy Grail CAN be built, whereas Ravenous Hydra is just plain ridiculous.

Foxy

Hexdrinker on Ahri? Hi and bye ...

I did put, in the very first line for the notes of that section, "In most cases, you neither need nor want to build any of these items."

I assumed that people would read that. I don't advocate buying any of the items in that section except in very very fringe cases, honestly the same goes for half the stuff in "Defensive Items".

I added a note for that section to clarify, in any case.

I'm pretty sure that an Athene's rush Ahri will always do more than one who ever bought a Muramana or Ohmwhrecker. And no, I don't need any testing or proof to make that assessment.

Bonus Round: Seems like you just kinda threw EVERY single item that could possibly maybe but not really be even the slightest bit useful on Ahri in case of a rainy day. You should really cut back to like a max of 4-6 items that deviate from the core build. When you realistically going to build half that ****?

That's because it is on Ahri in 97% of cases, especially after its nerfs. You don't need the mana regen from it if you're even slightly competent at mana management and double Doran's rings is more than enough even if you are, and the amount MR it gives is negligible now. The recent buffs to Ahri's Q mana cost only solidified this. If you buy Athene's on Ahri, you're just gimping yourself, especially if you rush it.

It's kinda odd because you're essentially saying Athene's Unholy Grail is worse than Ohmwrecker or Muramana.