Official Champion Design Rant Thread

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=jamespongebob][quote=GrandmasterD]Alright, here we go. I will try to keep it short. [list] [*] [[Jinx]] - Oh boy! I don't even know where to start really. [[Jinx]] makes no sense whatsoever, and don't tell me that's the poing because that's just an excuse for lazy design and not thinking things through. [[Jinx]] is, as far I can see, not a psychopath. I mean sure, some people like blowing stuff up, and some of them are psychopaths. However, no one is going to dedicate their life to this. Also, her entire existence makes [[Caitlyn]] and [[Vi]] look like fucking idiots. [[Jinx]] runs around, blows shit up, but they can't ever catch her?! Ever?! Damn, is [[Caitlyn]] like Piltover's Chief Wiggum (In case you don't know who that is; stop watching MLP and start watching The Simpsons)? Then, in-game, she's one of the most immobile adcs in the game, which doesn't seem to match anything that her backstory shows. The innate, Q, and W are alright in terms of design but the E is really random. Same with the R. While her dream is to have thousands of rockets blowing stuff up, I don't know why she already has one. It really makes no sense to me. In short, [[Jinx]]' entire personality revolves around blowing stuff up. She's probably supposed to be a psychopath, but Riot seems to have done no research whatsoever on that point as none of her actions and quotes seem to reflect this. Her appearance is strange as fuck too. Like she has this odd attire of lots of belts and some weird homemade bikini top or sth? What is that? And why isn't she wearing anything more.. uh practical? Same with her hairdo, the braids are practical but then it's so long that it could pose a serious threat to her health if she was running. Oh well, maybe she just gets off on getting strangled with her own hair, who knows? [*] [[Thresh]] - Don't have much to say about [[Thresh]], I think he's really solid design. The fact that he's a support is a really neat spin on his appearance. We'd all expect a fiendish spectre to be an ap carry, but he's not! The only really weird thing I can find here is that he's a ranged tank, which, from a balancing aspect, is asking for problems. His original design was way too overpowered which has been a big problem for the longest of time. I also don't really like that he's a tank but then again, that kind of fits his playstyle in-game. [[Thresh]]' appearance is spooky, unique and connects with his lore and character. There's an air of mysticism that surrounds him and thankfully they did never explain his origins. [*] [[Zed]] - Uh mixed feelings. I think [[Zed]] looks fine, he's a dark ninja and really looks like one. His appearance seems to be heavily inspired by the Shredder from the TMNT franchise. This is fine but makes him less unique. The tekagi-shuko are, sadly, an underused weapon in fantasy games and I'm happy to see them explored. I think the giant shurkens are a tad odd, but from a gameplay perspective it was the right thing to do. The whole shadow concept is really nice but I feel like they could've done more with it. I do am happy that his backstory is filled with a mystery that isn't really explained. It should remain that way. I was pleasantly surprised by his quotes though, which really show that he is not just some evil ninja guy who loves being evil. He has his own philosophy which is really well expressed through his quotes; "Tradition is the corpse of wisdom." is a great one. [*] [[Vi]] - In the end I'm fairly disappointed by [[Vi]]'s design. Overall it feels really cheap to me. [[Vi]]'s armour, at first, seems reasonable to me; it's one plate, held together with, seemingly, strong belts but then there's the infamous boob plates which are just plain stupid. And then there's this weird piece of cloth sticking out? Is that a tutu? What is that?! And more importantly, why is it there? Is it like a hint to remind us that [[Vi]] is, in fact, female? I... I really don't know who came up with that. Speaking of random things, what's up with the goggles? Then there's the gauntlets, which I really hate. Obviously they're called hextech gauntlets cuz we gotta be League-y. However, first, her backstory makes no real sense. I mean she isn't a scientist or engineer, but apparently has the ability to turn things into giant gauntlets. And the point is, it wasn't necessary. Why can't we have a female boxing champion? I mean, [[Lee Sin]] fights bare-handed, and he has bigger issues in life. This kind of design really makes me think of a middle-aged, balding, businessman who has a tiny penis and therefore buys a Lamborghini to compensate. This is like compensating for the lack of depth the character and her backstory have. [/list][/quote] I agree. Most of the other Piltoverian lore makes [[caitlyn]] look so incompetent, and I honestly thing [[caitlyn]] is such a badass character personality-wise. Her voice really suits her as well. Also, her letting [[vi]] of the hook doesn't match her personality, as she's been doing fine alone as far as I can tell.[/quote] From Cait's lore I got the impression Piltover was like a town with three houses, an inn and maybe a general store (the specific store can be found in Zaun), because she's a sheriff. Why does a huge city like Piltover have a sheriff? Doesn't a city of that size require a police force?[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]btw, they do that with the portraits so the face is what you're looking at rather than the background, most the time.[/quote]

[quote=Toshabi]I'm very tempted to post screen shots of the alternative/developing concepts of some of these champions. I think a lot of you will say stuff like "WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T THEY GO WITH THIS DESIGN" on a lot of these. I'll think about whether or not I actually want to waste the time sharing this stuff with you. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/CIlD3iI.jpg[/IMG] (Note: You can't buy this book or find it at any typical anime/gaming convention)[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=Toshabi]I'm very tempted to post screen shots of the alternative/developing concepts of some of these champions. I think a lot of you will say stuff like "WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T THEY GO WITH THIS DESIGN" on a lot of these. I'll think about whether or not I actually want to waste the time sharing this stuff with you.[/quote] Just share it with me.[/quote]

[quote=Toshabi][quote=GrandmasterD][quote=Toshabi]I'm very tempted to post screen shots of the alternative/developing concepts of some of these champions. I think a lot of you will say stuff like "WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T THEY GO WITH THIS DESIGN" on a lot of these. I'll think about whether or not I actually want to waste the time sharing this stuff with you.[/quote] Just share it with me.[/quote] When I get the time, hit me a PM and I'll probably make em into a zip or something. We'll think of something. I honestly think the "Full armor" Vi design would be something right up your ally with her outfit.[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod]Not to mention Piltover is so big [[jinx]] can blow stuff into pieces and disappear without trace. It seems to me they tried to make her some sort of nihilist with a soft spot for explosions, but then she has two voice tones - maniac and angry - which remind me a lot of Tira design, from Soul Calibur. I like part of her design and quotes, but if you're a nihilist why join the League? I'm also pretty mad at how [[aatrox]] came out. The description and lore have [b]nothing[/b] to do with his ingame design or interactions. It was hinted he was some sort of berserk-inspiring demon with a knack for acts of war, instead they made him a melee vampire with a bloodsucking sword. Eh. A champion whose design I really like is [[syndra]] though. Her kit, the wish for breaking her own boundaries and how they gave her an imposing headpiece and a really elegant and queen-like pose in the game please me to no end.[/quote]

[quote=jamespongebob]The thought that [[caitlyn]] used to singlehandedly police the entire Piltover previously seems kind of funny now. [quote=FalseoGod]Not to mention Piltover is so big [[jinx]] can blow stuff into pieces and disappear without trace. It seems to me they tried to make her some sort of nihilist with a soft spot for explosions, but then she has two voice tones - maniac and angry - which remind me a lot of Tira design, from Soul Calibur. I like part of her design and quotes, but if you're a nihilist why join the League? I'm also pretty mad at how [[aatrox]] came out. The description and lore have [b]nothing[/b] to do with his ingame design or interactions. It was hinted he was some sort of berserk-inspiring demon with a knack for acts of war, instead they made him a melee vampire with a bloodsucking sword. Eh. A champion whose design I really like is [[syndra]] though. Her kit, the wish for breaking her own boundaries and how they gave her an imposing headpiece and a really elegant and queen-like pose in the game please me to no end.[/quote] [[syndra]]'s lingerie armor is petty stupid though.[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod][quote=jamespongebob]The thought that [[caitlyn]] used to singlehandedly police the entire Piltover previously seems kind of funny now. [quote=FalseoGod]Not to mention Piltover is so big [[jinx]] can blow stuff into pieces and disappear without trace. It seems to me they tried to make her some sort of nihilist with a soft spot for explosions, but then she has two voice tones - maniac and angry - which remind me a lot of Tira design, from Soul Calibur. I like part of her design and quotes, but if you're a nihilist why join the League? I'm also pretty mad at how [[aatrox]] came out. The description and lore have [b]nothing[/b] to do with his ingame design or interactions. It was hinted he was some sort of berserk-inspiring demon with a knack for acts of war, instead they made him a melee vampire with a bloodsucking sword. Eh. A champion whose design I really like is [[syndra]] though. Her kit, the wish for breaking her own boundaries and how they gave her an imposing headpiece and a really elegant and queen-like pose in the game please me to no end.[/quote] [[syndra]]'s lingerie armor is petty stupid though.[/quote] My perception of her self-image gives me the idea that she wears it only because she feels like it; in her own head, she's untouchable, too powerful for petty projectiles or basic swords and lamps[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=Toshabi][quote=GrandmasterD][quote=Toshabi]I'm very tempted to post screen shots of the alternative/developing concepts of some of these champions. I think a lot of you will say stuff like "WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T THEY GO WITH THIS DESIGN" on a lot of these. I'll think about whether or not I actually want to waste the time sharing this stuff with you.[/quote] Just share it with me.[/quote] When I get the time, hit me a PM and I'll probably make em into a zip or something. We'll think of something. I honestly think the "Full armor" Vi design would be something right up your ally with her outfit.[/quote] Sounds good.[/quote]

[quote=Jimmydoggga 2.0]Quinn Her ultimate sucks Her W passive has no real purpose in lane at all. Her E also sucks[/quote]