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And here I was feeling bad for my death averages on the champions I play regularly, which I felt were total **** because I was dying more than two-three times a game. >_>
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pretty standard for vapora
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Wayne3100 wrote:
How the hell do you die 9 times on average as Lucian


also all your other death averages are awful

2 of the 3 games were games in which my other lanes lost horribly and I kept getting 1-shot by anything that touched me.


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also all your other death averages are awful

Go ham or go home. I'd rather constantly try and make plays and test my limits than just not take any risks. There were tons of games where I 1v2'd the enemy bot lane, even without having a huge item advantage, and lots of others where I 2v3'd or even 1v3'd while getting ganked.

Sure, when I do end up dying 1v2 it looks really stupid and makes winning the game unnecessarily complicated, but at least I learn from it, learn how to play that scenario better, or just learn that there's no winning that scenario. What's there to learn from sitting at your tower safely until your support gets back to lane? What's there to learn by refusing to get near anything that does damage without having your team to back you up?

People have been mocking my high death rate since I was silver, but at the end of the day, I've got pretty damn far without improving that death rate.
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I agree taking risks is important and it teaches a player where his limits are, but once you learn that, shouldn't the number of deaths be going down?

I'm not trying to mock you, I'm legitimately surprised, especially if (a large) part of those games were played in silver elo.

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Most of my silver games were Ez, which is why I have the lowest deaths on him. :P I spent a lot less time in silver than I did in gold due to high MMR, I skipped silver 4 and silver 2 so I really only played 3 divisions in silver, and the last division was played with gold MMR. I was either approaching gold or already gold when I decided I should probably branch out rather than just spam my favourite ADC.


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I agree taking risks is important and it teaches a player where his limits are, but once you learn that, shouldn't the number of deaths be going down?

That sorta thing can't be learnt overnight. As I improve (and therefore climb), so does the quality of the players I face, meaning more difficult situations to get used to, less misplays from my enemies, etc. I'm sure if I were to spend 100 games in silver again, I'd have a much lower death rate in general than the last time I played 100 games in silver. But those silver games don't help me much when it comes to playing at a plat or diamond level. To improve past those, I need to play in them.

Also I have very limited experience at ADC compared to mid lane, and especially Talon. If I could redo the whole climb right now I'd probably do it a lot better now that I'm more familiar with each champion and ADC mechanics in general.

I'll probably have a comparatively high death rate until I'm rank 1 challenger (which will totally definitely 100% happen). I doubt I'm going to drop in deaths before I become that good a player (which again, is definitely going to happen) because there's just such a huge range of scenarios which are hard to predict the outcome of. Can I power through this bot lanes' exhaust and heal and still win if I have no summoners myself? What if I have Flash and I can use that to dodge 1 Corki ult, can I win then? If I'm fed on 30% HP and this 100% HP ADC is charging at me for a kill, can I 1v1 him and survive with a sliver of health, or is it he who's going to kill me and barely survive?

Then there's other situations like, aggressively dashing forwards with something like Arcane Shift in lane to force a trade when I know I can out-damage the enemy bot lane, but then having to rely on mechanical skill to dodge the Blitz Hook, or Thresh hook, or Morgana snare, or whatever skillshot CC they have, while still trying to output damage. The outcome of those scenarios depends on how well I play lol, sometimes it goes great and I get a kill or two, other times I misplay and get hit by the CC and die, or have to Flash out or something, which can have its consequences later.

It's not just about knowing the outcome of every possible scenario, but also about playing those scenarios the best I can. I know full well when I'm in a risky situation that I'm 1 unsuccessful dodge away from dying, but I'd still rather play that out and suffer the consequences, whether good or bad. "Can I do this? Let's find out!". That's just how I've gotten used to playing, and I do feel like I've improved a lot because of it. I think the fact that I've gotten so far without improving my deaths shows that I have improved a lot in general.
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Aatrox, one of those guys that can farm the jungle and not have to b. All my lanes were pretty even so i didn't need to gank anywhere so i just farmed jungle until i could instabuy devourer. had it around 9 mins.

I even gave away my first blue to talon because i have literally no use for it.

I got 69 devourer stacks by the end of the game and somehow tanked the most damage even though i build mostly damage (i wonder if that was just jungle creeps) also I could solo dragon so easy with the sustain.

You people be complaining about the new jungle and how hard it is, just play Aatrox.

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Talon went for a penta ins a co-op
was playing AD Soraka
Banana accidentally stole his penta while he was doing his combo
In a normal I wouldn't have done that but It was a bot game lol
Anyways, teh achivement here is that Talon kills people in under a second and this one was reallllllly fed, and I managed to kill someone while he was comboing them.
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1 time such great stats on PvP.

Rito nerfed Lucian? hmm...
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Could've died two times less at least but I'm really not accustomed to having a Zhonya's or being targeted by assassins. Since when does LeBlanc do burst?

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