Lillia Build Guide : [12.23 PRESEASON] ⭐ Sniff on Dust ⭐MONSTER DEER

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Is this viable top lane??

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sure, take conq tho

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good guide

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Beautiful beautiful guide!

Well done!

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thank you so much! :)

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I would have one questio; Why do you think that she can rarely carry in late?
I hear a lot of top level players that Lillia is super strong during the late game, especially if she has her ultimate avaliable.
She usually can get mutltiple people effectet by her ultimate, since she has the HP pool to do so.

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I would have one questio; Why do you think that she can rarely carry in late?
I hear a lot of top level players that Lillia is super strong during the late game, especially if she has her ultimate avaliable.
She usually can get mutltiple people effectet by her ultimate, since she has the HP pool to do so.

I kinda left that there without looking over it again, after playing Lillia so often I would also say the opposite is the case. She is an insane late game champion. Will edit, thanks for the reminder!

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Glad I could help man/girl! :)

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So why do you W max on Lillia instead of E max. W when leveling up only increases the base dmg of the ability, while upgrading E increases the slow amount and the base dmg which is higher than w dmg. Also, W is the worst ability for Lillia, you could only use it for when they are cc or heavily slow to get the full dmg. If E is maxed second, the benefits are greater compare to that w max 2nd, team fighting is better, u have better kitting or getaways, and since they are slowed longer you have the ability to maximaze ur dmg compare to that of W max.

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You're disregarding the actual DPS value of those orders. An E max will give you 60 more damage and 20% more slow. W max offers 60 more base damage and 4 seconds less cooldown. This is ability will, even regardless of hitting the middle of the W, more DPS than E. However, calculating the TRIPLE damage hit will offer you, in total, an increase of 180 damage BEFORE AP, etc. Now that is also on a much lower cooldown and thus the DPS value will skyrocket compared to E max.

Also, E max will not increase slow duration, nor the amount of time they are slowed in total, because the Cooldown doesn't decrease either. The uncertain factor that you're consistently going to hit depends on your skill and I would expect people who actually take playing her that serious to consistently hit those middle Ws. Though even if they don't, they'd deal more DPS in a fight. The only thing speaking for an E max is therefore the increased slow at the cost of damage. This trade can for sure be taken if you've failed at winning the early game and need to kite the enemy rather than getting up close to them and throwing a W in their face. So, i can see an E max as viable if you're too scared to approach the enemy and go for a more defensive/utility Playstyle after you've not managed to build a lead.

Personally, I wouldn't want to miss out on the superior DPS value and since I know I can reliably hit the Bullseye, I even get Triple the value of it compared to an E max

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Is SO OPPPP <3

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Just a little question on the Tank build, scaling vs squishys, isn't that just like the DPS build for scaling? What makes it different, and can i choose it for tanking aswell then?

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Ok, so what's your take on the top lane comet build, no one on this website has even made a part in their guides. I have been seeing a lot of success with the build so it's kinda crazy no one is talking about it as much.

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You may see a lot of success with it, but that doesn't mean it's a really good - let alone viable - option. Personally, I find Comet sub-optimal and not best in Slot so it's really just prefered to go with what actually compliments Lillia, rather than comet which doesn't exactly synergize with Lillia in any stage of the game.

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I would agree that comet doesn't really have a impact in the late game as much. But in the early game comet allows Lillia to deal more dmg in trades compare to DH due to comet low cooldown and how Lillia can easily proc it with q or e. But the sorcery tree is really good on her to run as a primary compare to the domination tree which you really just need cheap shot or taste of blood with rav hunter. But you can also make the arguement that socery tree really have only 2 sub runes that her viable top that being transcendent and nimbus cloak. But manaflow band comes in handy due to Lillia being able to do more short trades with either q or e and gathering storm because free AP for a late game Lillia if building mostly tank. I also forgot to mention frozen heart being one of the best items on Lillia if your playing top due to that it can proc double Liandry's burn at 700 range which is larger than her Q and longer than the burn range of Sunfire and abyssal mask if your playing jungle go dead mans instead for faster clears and faster rotations. That's personally what I have to say about the comet build I know this is a full paragraph but I'm just giving my opinion and the benefits of the comet build for Lillia top.

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This is a nice guide, I hope you can expand on it in the future and I recommend adding the link to Lillia's lore instead of explaining it all since it takes up a lot of space on the guide, adding top lane/jungle match ups will help a lot too. I might be the only one, but I have odd mana problems the entire game so do you think getting a Lost Chapter would help?

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When jungling, make sure you make good use of your Hunter's Talisman and generally you might want to learn a thing or two about maximum efficiency per Skill Cast, therefore allowing you to manage your Mana much better. I think getting a Lost Chapter for an issue that can be resolved with just a change of playstyle isn't justified, but if you feel like it would help you out personally feel free to do so. Alternatively, you could also get a Dark Seal to get the Extra Max Mana.

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Hey there, just wanted to say it might be a good idea to shorten the lore section or maybe even completely replace it with a link to the lore page on universe.leagueoflegends.com. It surely relates to the champion, but it's about 1/3 of the guide and aspiring players don't necessarily need it. If you then want to keep the in-depth tag, you can add some item explanations or ability tips and tricks for example. That will improve the quality of the guide even further. :)
Kind regards.

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Hi, im a new member here in mobafire,
has look through your guide roughly but not yet done reading since i find the new hero pretty interesting. would like to ask if you ever consider tank runes like AFTERSHOCK or GRASP OF THE UNDYING? also do you always buy Liandry and rylai even though i know it's the core item somehow,
like rylai then tank items or sunfire cape with first item then proceed with boots, other tank items?

also i wanted to put the tag of runes, as i want to show but i dont know how do i do it

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Grasp is not really as good as it sounds because Lillia is technically a ranged champion so you be getting the ranged healing of that which is not really as worth. Also, you don't necessary need to buy liandry and rylai's every time. Like some junglers go runic into dead man which is pretty good. Also, some people think sunfire and abyssal are good on Lillia, but due to both Sunfire and abyssal range being smaller than her its a trap to go those items.

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I have a couple of questions. First of all I was wondering what you think about grabbing warmogs later in the game? I feel like there is a lot of potential because of her kiting for her to use warmogs to heal up and easily re-engage. I was also wondering if there are places where full dps lillia is going to out preform tank builds. Other than that I really like your guide, it helped clear up some confusion about why people build conq, I will definitely try it out.

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In most games I play, I feel like a Warmog's would take up an item slots that I could (and should) use for something more useful. Usually Teamfights are clean cut and there isn't enough Delay between re-engages to allow Warmog's Passive to start healing you up. I would prefer going for a different item that isn't so situational as Warmog's is.

Full DPS Lillia is, in my opinion, almost never going to outperform Tank Lillia. Lillia just isn't made to be a Hypercarry and just the idea of her kit and the intended playstyle doesn't really want you die from 3 skills by the enemy. You are circling the enemy and prancing around but you're still catching loads of Attacks and you have to withstand those, there's no extra Resistances or Damage Reduction you get from her kit. The Liandry's and Jungle Item gives you enough Damage to keep up in sufficient DPS as you go tank. Keeping up your Passive on the enemy (and therefore Liandry's) is what you should be looking to do most of the time. Tank Lillia allows you to take more hits as you re-apply your passive over and over again, most of the time until the end of the teamfights. Full DPS Lillia would have just died in the first seconds of the battle after being locked down for a second.

Hope I helped you out! :)
Just as a sidenote though, I am not a huge fan of Conqueror Lillia anymore, being honest, since applying the actual 12 Stacks in real games doesn't go as smoothly as explained in theory. I still usually run Dark Harvest :)

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Thanks for the help, I honestly felt the same about conq after trying it out in practice vs a bot, yeah it's a bot but by the time you got the stacks up, the fight would already be somewhat decided and the healing really does not bring much to the table. Personally I feel like dark harvest has a lot of synergy because you can all in for a kill after knocking people down enough. That and farming dh w/ lillia is child's play.

[12.23 PRESEASON] ⭐ Sniff on Dust ⭐MONSTER DEER

[12.23 PRESEASON] ⭐ Sniff on Dust ⭐MONSTER DEER

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