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[5.23] Dan's Bot Lane Tier List and Matchups
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The new analysis are nice. I think if you could have a toggle for each analysis part to make it feel less bulky, keep the good with, bad against, good against section still showing. That is nitpicky thought. I do wish you had champion summaries for naut, tahm, and lux though. Once again, I use this guide everyday and love it. TYVM and keep up the good work.
Thanks for the feedback, I'm going to try to keep this updated and add more summaries as I try to climb to Diamond. One problem I have is that I mostly main Evelynn in the jungle now so I don't get a lot of play-time bot lane on top of my college schedule.
I might end up doing this to lessen the clutter. Thanks for the feedback!
match with my expectations at all and often i can't the reason why a specific champion
is in a specific tier. The guide is also lacking in clarity. I think that the alphabetical order of the champions is not a smart choice. Also you have a big list of champions which are good/bad against each other, but you don't explain why. Also i would rather list just list a few matches per champion, to focus on the biggest strengths or weaknesses of a specific champion.
Great guide overall, but you list Nautilus as an S tier, but then do not have any analysis of him in the next section. I would love to see an update with his matchups.
You list Soraka as B-tier at the top, but next to her indepth guide you call her A tier. I agree that she is A-tier, but also, you miss out Urgot on your "goes well with" list.
With him building fairly tanky for an AD and preferring longer fights, her sustain suits him very well and they are such a strong bully lane together.
Ezreal's biggest shortcoming is lack of late game damage. The Tear of the Goddess build also takes some time to be useful, making Ez fall behind in early game too. The meta game is again shortly shifting more towards the late game.
Graves: I'm pretty sure ultimate with 550 (+1.5 AD) and 440 (+1.2 AD) AoE burst with 364 +(1.5 AD) Buckshot don't fall off late game. Quickdraw giving 70% more attack speed and re-positioning tool. That sounds pretty good for late game. (In addition to being extremely lane dominant after reaching B.F sword)
Lucian got only small dmg nerfs. Nothing else changed, making him still one of the top tier ADC's. Probably not the best anymore though.
Kalista is a late game carry
Alistar is all about that Q + W combo in early laning phase. Late game probably being weakest.
Braum is quite strong in early game with the passive + shield and Q
Thresh + Blitzcrank are pretty much all around good through the game but if I had to mention a "power-spike", it would be in the early game.
Wow, Soraka "S" Tier, Ezreal "S" Tier, Graves bottom of "A" tier and Lucian in "B" tier? There are lots of other things I disagree with but these stand out the most.
In the actual content (Those which stand out the most):
Especially this one: Kalista power spike early game? What?
* Alistar power spike late game?
* Braum power spike late game?
* Blitzcrank power spike mid game?
* Thresh power spike late game?
* Champion summaries doesn't match tier list
Plenty of more but those stand out the most again. I kinda felt like just commenting but there are way too many situational/questionable calls that I can't leave it be. -1
Keep in mind that Tier Lists are by nature opinion-based. I do have unpopular opinions from time to time, but decided to put them in because a list based completely off what everyone thinks is viable would land every champion into S Tier. I had people who told me my guide was awful because I moved Twitch out of S Tier after his last nerf.
That said, I'm happy to discuss the Tier Lists, though explaining why you disagree with something would be helpful.
I believe Soraka to be the most under-rated Support at the moment. In my games, I often have more Healing Done than the carries have Damage Done. Maybe S Tier is high for her, but I wouldn't place her lower than High-A.
Ezreal can build anything he wants, making him very versatile. I'm curious as to who you think is more deserving of S Tier.
I will get a lot of flak for this, but I think Graves is pretty over-rated right now. Sure, his laning phase is great against most Champs, but he feels really lackluster in teamfights if the opposing AD is even with him. His burst falls off as he opts for Crit and Attack Speed and his Passive becomes hardly noticeable Late Game making him lose his niche Tankiness factor.
Lucian's nerfs made him more counter-playable and honestly pretty balanced. High B Tier isn't bad. What makes him stand out right now? I'd be happy to reconsider if you would explain what makes him strong.
Some of Kalista's stuff was placeholder as people tried figuring her out. I now see her as a mid-game spiking champ that's good with wombo-combo Supports.
I listed Braum, Alistar, and Thresh as Late Game because of the way they scale with Cooldown Reduction and Levels. Their Peeling abilities get stronger as those Cooldowns get lower.
I placed Blitzcrank as Mid-Game because I believe that's where he excels at catching people out before the Carries get Banshee's Veils.
I don't mind someone having differing opinions, but please explain your reasoning if you want this list to improve.