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Support Advanced support tactics, read a beginner guide first.

Support Advanced support tactics, read a beginner guide first.

Updated on May 22, 2014
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League of Legends Build Guide Author ronaldnl Build Guide By ronaldnl 33,834 Views 7 Comments
33,834 Views 7 Comments League of Legends Build Guide Author ronaldnl Build Guide By ronaldnl Updated on May 22, 2014
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FantasySniper (15) | August 17, 2014 12:10am
You need to fix a lot of typos, and use BBcode.

A lot of those lists you have could be greatly improved using BBcode.
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Wicked Eye (25) | June 16, 2014 9:24am
I like how your guide is pretty detailed on some points, I don't agree with all the things you said but in all it seems ok, I will also wait a bit more to vote because I feel it still needs some improvement, but as it is so huge I know it can take a while.

For now I will only talk about coding since I think I can help you a bit with it (maybe). My guide has a lot of code, but because this is the part I enjoy doing the most, if you don't like it there are small things you can do to make it easier to read.

1. I think your content order is a bit messy, you could try to find a logic and follow it. For example: talk about game strategy first and then in-game things like runes and masteries.
2. On your tips, you could separate them in topics like Laning, Farming, Warding so it'll be easier to read/understand your tips.
3. As someone above said putting everything like Soraka will help a lot!
4. You could also organize the things you say in 1, 2, 3. a, b, c or just a -. It is pretty simple and already make it easier to look and understand.
5. You can put titles in center to be easy to identify where different topics begin.
6. There are people here on MobaFire that make images for guides, so if you are interested on that you can check them out here.

Oh, and you talked abut Skype, but Curse Voice is actually better, since you don't have to add anyone :3
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ronaldnl | May 22, 2014 1:29am
Wow great feedback:) Thanks a lot! MOBAFIRE IF YOU HEAR THIS CHANGE THIS GUY'S REPUTATION! I'll try to rewrite it. Could take some time though. I like the insights on some tactics like Leona in a poke comp. You inspired me to make some changes, they will come!
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Latest Legend (149) | May 21, 2014 2:46pm
I felt a little down so I just started reviewing your guide. Most of it are nitpicks and I didn't really take the time to word them properly, for which I'm sorry.

First and foremost, coding. Coding could make your guide so much more readable, understandable and well-received.

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Your adc does the damage, not you
Would be really true in the previous season, right now there are some exceptions I'd say.

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But it still sucks to lose So what can we do about that?
Missed a '.'.

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Most of the time in champion select there are two guys who main mid, if you are lucky 1 who mains adc and everyone can play top or jungle if possible. At highest 1 in every 10 games someone shouts: "please I want to play support". They are probably premade and suck anyway. Conclusion: If you want to take the role thats left you want to pick support.
I don't understand why it's under "Picking a support buffs your whole team". And I don't understand why it's in a guide claiming to be about advanced support tactics.

I would rather pick something like Leona on squishy dive teams than a poke champion with some buff.

There might be a place for Nidalee support, but it wouldn't be the first thing coming to mind to me. Especially if you build for the spear damage it usually comes down to a weaker version of AP Nidalee mid, and she has no disengage for poke comps too. And no real CC hurts in lane.

I think Alistar is perfect for disengaging and sustain, I would rather recommend taking it with an end-game team. He can stop Leona and Blitzcrank, and other hard engage and all-in supports. What more could you wish for?

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Do you snowball harder on Leona then Karma?
Should be "than".

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When don't you go support

Misses a '?', but I would rather word it like "When not to go support"

"Are you the type of LOL player that fits the support role?" Could perhaps be a bit shorter, it isn't an advanced support tactic.

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Sorakka
You did this multiple times.

I thought Alistar was pretty good at the moment. Perhaps even too good. I'd rather not recommend Zilean as a meta support.

You never define the term "trollsupport".

I haven't looked into Braum yet, but isn't he skill-shot reliant? Same goes for Janna though it's easy to hit because of the speed.

Taric can be played pretty tanky.

I would count Blitzcrank under hard engage too. I think it's a little hard because most supports can engage though, I feel like listing more.

Alistar can be played as a real disengage support. And is pretty all-round I think.

Taric's heal is pretty useless.

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Minions can deal more damage then a player.
"than".

I would elaborate on zoning. I think it's a very important skill for supports, it defines their lane presence and if one can read the enemy zone it will be easier to think ahead.

A nice thing to mention might be Nocturne's favourite ult location(the tribush above the enemy turret if I'm not mistaken).

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It increaes your winrate


I think muting is a double-edged blade for supports. Knowing what's happening on the team is something supports have more time for than others. Same goes for solving this kind of issues. You might want to refer to a guide for something like that, I think a certain banana with a fabulous moustache made one.

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Don't say to much.
Should be "too".

Quoted:
Unless its positive
"it's" and a '.'.

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controlling your en your teammates
"en". Doe ik zelf ook wel eens. :P

Perhaps it would be a good idea to mention adc and support synergies, and refer to them in the "Premades" section.

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noone
I think this should be "no-one" but I'm not certain.

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[...]says they can play adc,
Should be '?'

Alistar has a very good disengage too, so I wouldn't recommend against him with new adc players. I would recommend taking a support with hard CC with an unexperienced adc player.

I think counter-picking is as important on bot as in all other lanes. Like picking Caitlyn against a low-range adc, and picking Janna against Leona.

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Your jungler is comming
I guess you saw that one coming. :P

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kill the slipery janna/lulu
"slippery"

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spellrange is smaller then auto attack
Please, take a minute to learn the difference between "then" and "than". Then you'll realize it's more useful than you could've ever imagined.

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goldincome


I wouldn't be too strict with the get Relic Shield on melee supports. Think Blitzcrank. I almost always take Ancient Coin for the active.

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Give a good pull to the jungler, you won't lose any cs
Losing too much xp might be a problem for lv2 all-ins.

The "Tricks" section is definitely the best part of the guide in my opinion. Nice collection.

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your creeps to large. Enemies
"too".


I think your guide needs a lot of work, but it's evident there has gone a lot of time in it already. While I may not agree with some of your points, I would leave most of the content as is for now, and start doing some coding! It's not hard to type Aatrox and it already makes your guide a lot more readable.

To give you an estimation, I read most, and it took me more than an hour. I think it could be a lot shorter and understandable with some coding.

Lastly, don't bother spending 9 hours on writing content and then stop. It's a waste of your time because I'll probably be the only one reading it.

I'll hold my vote for now.

Keep up the good work and good luck!

EDIT: Longest post of the year award please.
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Vynertje (386) | May 21, 2014 1:20pm
Als je wilt dat mensen je guide lezen, moet je er voor zorgen dat mensen het überhaupt kunnen lezen. Op dit moment is je guide gewoon compleet onleesbaar omdat het gewoon één grote muur tekst is.
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ronaldnl | May 21, 2014 1:16pm
Feel free to copy the text and write a beautiful guide. I like to share my knowledge, but i don't like to spend 10 hours on making a guide beautiful. Thanks for the comment though:)
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zombee10 (2) | May 21, 2014 6:37am
way to much walls of text. No visuals and no color. It made me not want to read it just from scrolling over it made me almost vomit (cause of ****ing lazy). try to add pictures and a simple thing to do is replace the empty space of the brackets with the name of item/champion/ability/anything in lol add a little picture like this i.e Anivia, Janna Titan's Wrath, Infinity Edge
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