I understand that people have qualms about his passive stacks, but once you dig deeper into the onion, you will find that my reasoning will also make sense. You see, when I was maining Kindred jg, the most problem I faced was the fact that everyone knew that scuttle stack start, and then you have to go all risky by going to the enemy jg stack which all their enemies know too. Once you go gold and above, you gonna have their enemies either clear that camp already, or collapse on you as soon as you enter. So by the time you actually get your 4th stack, it may already be past 15 min, which kind of makes the whole point moot. In lane, however, even if you mark them, they can't escape. Support may roam, support will have to come back to lane at some point, and ADC is not gonna just up and leave lane for long periods in the early phase no matter what. That means you have at least two guaranteed marks that you will always be able to rotate and get for first 15 min of the game. One of my fav thing to do is hit lvl 2 first than my laner opponents, push them into their towers first (wave management), proceed to enter into river for scuttle stack on my side with my support, when our juggler is path'ed that way (and you let your jg know you just need hit once and he can take scuttle). That's already easy stack 1, and if I get two kills on their enemy ADC and support in the next 5 min (cuz nobody can truly predict that e dmg) I end up with 3 stacks in the first 5 min. At which point, I will mark on the jg (their jg gonna come gank at one point or the other since you can't mark the same champs twice for some time), and either get marks off their enemy jg, or ADC or supp (when marks return for them), or the enemy gromp (if your jg is invading and you and your supp have lane advantage again. I will try to either stream on twitch on upload video there from my replays to show what I mean ;)