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Vladimir Build Guide by Ghosthawk

Ghosthawk's Crimson Reaper *REVISED*

Ghosthawk's Crimson Reaper *REVISED*

Updated on September 28, 2010
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Sacull_Kinslayer (30) | September 26, 2010 9:58am
Baby_man wrote:

I am sorry but this really has no good damage output. In all reality if you think about it the only way you would get kills is by KSing other people who are carrys or will be more useful than you. This build honestly doesnt play to Vlads strengths. Sure you will have tons of health but madreds will easily take care of that.

I think this build is more for sticking back, using your ulti and getting the finishing blow on people than it is about actually helping your team finish the game in a timely manner.

-1


That is my feeling on most tank builds for vlad. That is why i prefer a pure AP build whether 9 or 10 offense and 19-21 defense or 20/21 utility. But bottom line is it comes down to personal preference when soloing. I have seen a ton of newb vlads this week going though and having decent scores while giving their team no real help and running from team fights as soon as they drop their ult. Vlad can be so much more than the examples i have faced this last week.

But this is all my opinion and preference.
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Baby_man (2) | September 25, 2010 3:03pm
I am sorry but this really has no good damage output. In all reality if you think about it the only way you would get kills is by KSing other people who are carrys or will be more useful than you. This build honestly doesnt play to Vlads strengths. Sure you will have tons of health but madreds will easily take care of that.

I think this build is more for sticking back, using your ulti and getting the finishing blow on people than it is about actually helping your team finish the game in a timely manner.

-1
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Wilzon | September 23, 2010 1:11pm
Ghosthawk wrote:

So you talk about my photo of my match history, i was trying to combine two pages into one, yes I left out the few bad games I had, but I didnt edit/modify the actual game scores. Sorry to say, you are wrong. Those scores are in fact real, look me up in game and see for yourself, as I saw how ****py you are. But then again why am I even arguing with a noob like you, 120 wins total? Wow some pro you are, yeah im over you.


Admitted to shopping something, and still doing nothing but trying to prove that you're better than someone rather than have an intelligent conversation and using supportive information to defend your points doesn't make you good, or correct. AGAIN, you still are nothing more than an egotistical ***hat. You can say that you're done with me, but the rest of the viewers can see that you have no factual evidence to support anything I've challenged you on. Good Game to you sir.

120 wins, less losses, and multiple accounts, plus time in other MOBAs. Trust me, your points are all entirely invalid. You continue to be a chump.


That is where your wrong , Mejai's Soulstealer is a great item for Vlad , in which it's a must to auto include it because he can get kills so easily , and your failsauce and broham with "it's only good vs bad players" , it's enough trying to prove m yfriend wrong when clearly your bad at Vlad , but proving and saying stuff that is pointless is bad enough . It's called being careful and having Tanks defend you when you snowball , sure you'll be focused in teamfights , but with Vlad getting farmed with items and having multiple stacks , he can kill there carry who's focusing him i nteamfights to bring down his stacks with his abilities. Mejai's is one of the best cost efficeint AP Items in the game.
Anything else sir ?


First, I have to ask, did your friend cry over vent b/c he has no legitimate argument to make on behalf of his horrid purchases? Then you came on here, in an attempt to gang up on me to prove that you doofuses are correct?

Mejai's is ONLY cost effective when you build stacks against bad players. Again, good teams will focus you down and make your spent gold on upgrading the book into another item with only +20 AP flat on it entirely worthless. They will congratulate you on being ******ed and thank you for wasting your gold.

Of course, theoretically, if your friend is playing as you suggest, staying in the back and letting the tank do their job, then why would he need to play with this HP build to begin with? Flat AP is strictly superior under optimal conditions. Theoretically, he could have 1 total HP and it wouldn't matter b/c he'd just annihilate the other team and never get touched. Oh wait, this is where you argue that games aren't ever perfect, and that he might get focused, in which case, YOU HAVE PROVEN MY POINT ABOUT MEJAI'S IN THE FIRST PLACE. Ooops, you guys probably didn't even think that far ahead.

Also, <3 how this guide not only has Mejai's as a requirement, but the author's defense to it is that he sells it (losing ~800 gold for no reason) in favor of another item. Why not just build into the more important item first? Or is he just spewing more bull**** in an attempt to appear better at this game than he really is? I'm thinking so!
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AfghanWalrus (5) | September 23, 2010 12:06pm
Wilzon wrote:



No thanks, because any build that says "Mejai's Soulstealer" as an auto-include is also wrong b/c Mejai's is only good vs bad players. Good players will focus you and keep your stacks down, making it a waste of gold to purchase.



That is where your wrong , Mejai's Soulstealer is a great item for Vlad , in which it's a must to auto include it because he can get kills so easily , and your failsauce and broham with "it's only good vs bad players" , it's enough trying to prove m yfriend wrong when clearly your bad at Vlad , but proving and saying stuff that is pointless is bad enough . It's called being careful and having Tanks defend you when you snowball , sure you'll be focused in teamfights , but with Vlad getting farmed with items and having multiple stacks , he can kill there carry who's focusing him i nteamfights to bring down his stacks with his abilities. Mejai's is one of the best cost efficeint AP Items in the game.
Anything else sir ?
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Wilzon | September 22, 2010 10:23pm
Oh, and another PS:

Annie only has 2 true "nukes" being Disintegrate and Tibbers. The cone of fire isn't a nuke, if you're not considering either Tides of Blood or Sanguine Pool to be nukes, that is. Also, if we're considering Tibbers to be a nuke, then technically, so is Vlad's ultimate.
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Wilzon | September 22, 2010 10:17pm
Ghosthawk wrote:

I usually swap out Mejai's Soulstealer for Zhonya's Ring, as it describes in the item list. I rarely keep it long enough to get over 10 stacks, but even at 10 stacks it is still providing well over 80 Ability Power for a very inexpensive item. As far as it being useful against only "bad players" you miss the fact that you accumulate stacks for assists as well as kills, so no matter what you will earn stacks.

As far as Vladimir not being a carry, it just seems to me that only having "1" nuke ability is entirely way to weak to be a true carry. You need at least 2 to 3 abilities to nuke someone down, preferably with a stun of some sort, hense why Annie is a good carry because she has 3 nukes, including a stun.

I also dislike Vladimir as a carry due to how easy it is to counter his damage, only having 1 spammable nuke can be quickly countered with magic resistance.

But again its all opinion, neither you or I are pros, but again, with my recent match history and my new build I feel like im headed in the right direction. Thank you for the help/suggestions, i have taken a few, "ghost" for example.


PS// I was curious to see how your match history holds up to your ranting, well lets see below...

Hmm, looks like you lose a bit of creditability when you clearly can't back up your statements. Please don't hate/troll on other people until you have some experience and actual numbers to back your trash up.


So, not only have you nothing to say about your photoshopped results, but you also pull up my match history of my random solo queues on the literal worst run I've ever had within this game, and are attempting to compare them as if it's an apples to apples comparison? Jeez, my premade takes a break for the new Civ, I get tanked by getting teamed with ******s who literally have never purchased a single Mercury Treads in their lives, and you're attempting to use this as proof that you're a better player than I am as opposed to actually defending anything I'm suggesting, or to defend the shopped picture you posted? This isn't a debate as much as it is you attempting to prove that you know what you're talking about by trying to prove that you're better than someone else, using very specific (or in your pic's case, illegitimate) and small sample sizes of scores that place weight in your favor. Should I start taking screenshots of your scores and start comparing them to mine, I'm 100% sure that I could do the same within a week.

Anyhow, you've proven nothing other than your ego continues to be your biggest flaw, with a friendly smile while attempting to measure your epeen. You still are nothing but an egotistical ***hat who likely isn't even half as good as you attempt to portray.
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Lazirus | September 22, 2010 12:32pm
EPIC BUILD!!! I went 23-2-14 the first game and pulled off a 18-1-11 the second game!!! Thanks for the eliteness!
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Ghosthawk (16) | September 22, 2010 12:22pm
I usually swap out Mejai's Soulstealer for Zhonya's Ring, as it describes in the item list. I rarely keep it long enough to get over 10 stacks, but even at 10 stacks it is still providing well over 80 Ability Power for a very inexpensive item. As far as it being useful against only "bad players" you miss the fact that you accumulate stacks for assists as well as kills, so no matter what you will earn stacks.

As far as Vladimir not being a carry, it just seems to me that only having "1" nuke ability is entirely way to weak to be a true carry. You need at least 2 to 3 abilities to nuke someone down, preferably with a stun of some sort, hense why Annie is a good carry because she has 3 nukes, including a stun.

I also dislike Vladimir as a carry due to how easy it is to counter his damage, only having 1 spammable nuke can be quickly countered with magic resistance.

But again its all opinion, neither you or I are pros, but again, with my recent match history and my new build I feel like im headed in the right direction. Thank you for the help/suggestions, i have taken a few, "ghost" for example.


PS// I was curious to see how your match history holds up to your ranting, well lets see below...

Hmm, looks like you lose a bit of creditability when you clearly can't back up your statements. Please don't hate/troll on other people until you have some experience and actual numbers to back your trash up.



Wilzon wrote:



No thanks, because any build that says "Mejai's Soulstealer" as an auto-include is also wrong b/c Mejai's is only good vs bad players. Good players will focus you and keep your stacks down, making it a waste of gold to purchase.

I'm sure you have some good, if not great games; Vlad is a very strong champion, as shown in the US Finals where Vlad dominated the game he wasn't banned in. Also, I'm sure the survivability you have with him is absurd. (in a good way) I however, personally still believe Vlad to be a superior carry as opposed to strictly support, mainly because saying that he is only a support character for his once every 90 seconds ultimate to be a weak argument. A hard hitting nuke that is reasonably spammable in Transfusion makes him a clear cut carry with other AoE damage potential in SP and ToB, to go with his ultimate. If I'm wrong about that, then I suppose Annie isn't a carry either, and I've been wrong this whole time about what a carry is.
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Wilzon | September 21, 2010 9:19pm
Ghosthawk wrote:

tell ya what, add me to your friends list "Ghosthawk" and look at my recent match history, the last two games I went 17-4-16, and 17-6-17... However I will admit that Ghost is probably a better choice, so thank you for that... But as far as the rest of my strategy/build its flawless, see for yourself! =)


No thanks, because any build that says "Mejai's Soulstealer" as an auto-include is also wrong b/c Mejai's is only good vs bad players. Good players will focus you and keep your stacks down, making it a waste of gold to purchase.

I'm sure you have some good, if not great games; Vlad is a very strong champion, as shown in the US Finals where Vlad dominated the game he wasn't banned in. Also, I'm sure the survivability you have with him is absurd. (in a good way) I however, personally still believe Vlad to be a superior carry as opposed to strictly support, mainly because saying that he is only a support character for his once every 90 seconds ultimate to be a weak argument. A hard hitting nuke that is reasonably spammable in Transfusion makes him a clear cut carry with other AoE damage potential in SP and ToB, to go with his ultimate. If I'm wrong about that, then I suppose Annie isn't a carry either, and I've been wrong this whole time about what a carry is.
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Wilzon | September 21, 2010 1:48pm
PS - Your photo is shopped, congratz on trying to look better than you are. Closer inspection reveals flawed pixels around the 20 kills in the "20/7/18" game. In fact, that 2 in particular has clearly been tampered with when compared to every other 2 in the picture. Gratz on being failsauce broham.
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Wilzon | September 21, 2010 1:41pm
Ghosthawk wrote:

i beg to differ, i believe flash is much more useful, you lose all element of surprise with ghost, and imo id rather have the 10 AP at lower levels than having ignite 20 seconds earlier. As far as bloodrazor etc, if their carry is focusing on me then my job is done. Vladimir is not supposed to be the primary carry on your team, he is supposed to be used as support, hence his ultimate, and other abilities. If someone wants to sit there and hit you 10-20x to kill you, whatever, you'll take a death and rack up 5 assists instead. Seems good to me.

Oh and my match history proves my point, but w/e thanks for posting =)





LoL @ "Oh and my match history proves my point, but w/e thanks for posting =)" because it shows that not only are you a cocky jerk, but also completely closed-minded. Flash is clearly inferior to Ghost on almost all fronts, and the proof is that the top players are using Ghost over Flash. Did you watch the US Finals? How many ghost vs how many flash eh? Sorry bro, but you're just wrong.

Also, Vlad IS a carry. His ultimate doesn't just help others, it helps himself too since his abilities are some of the most spammable abilities of any hero in the game. You can play him as tank/support all you'd like, but it's pretty inferior to the AP builds.

Lastly, 10 AP is weak beyond level 4, so unless you get 1st blood every single game, your choice to have Burning Embers over Utility Mastery is a mistake, plain and simple. Even with first blood EVERY game, it's still questionable.

Basically, get over yourself and open your mind to other possibilities than what YOU think is good.
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d00myish | September 21, 2010 12:45pm
Great build!! I went 17-3-11 first game, and 8-2-16 the second game!! Lots of fun, and stacking both the armor and soulstealer is nasty!
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