I haven't really played Udyr yet, so I was looking into different ways to play him. As this is my first time actually reading through a guide completely, I think it was very descriptive...It definitely gave me some new ideas on how to build him. Seriously though, I agree with Latest Legend; punctuation is very important in appearance, as is simple credibilty with things like the count on the ability's levels. Other than that, you're doing a great job! Make more guides (just watch the punctuation and usage) and you'll do great!

Some extra feedback:

Hybrid pen > armor pen if you max R first. Attack speed could be good as well.

Utility tree isn't that good on udyr. 9/21/0 or 0/21/9 is a lot better.

Frozen mallet is a rather bad item right now. It's super expensive and worthless till you have the whole item completed.

You might want to consider taking one point in Q a bit sooner because it is quite useful overall. You could also max E over W for the added unit collision and movement speed which is quite valuable, but I'm not 100% sure which is best.

I doubt the effectiveness of ghost on udyr because flash allows you to instantly stun + stick onto the target. Besides that, you already have an inbuilt form of unit collision on E.

Thank you all for your pointers the guide is being updated right now thanks to them :)

Latest Legend , THANK you for the pointers!

wel i can tell you something funny here it comes see it's pretty hard to understand how a story is to be read if you don't put any punctuation in it it gets even worse when you've got your grammar wrong too punctuation is grammar too actually i'm sure i'm not the only one who feels that way also if it is impossible to max a skill at eight why on earth would you put that in a guide that doesn't make the reader feel comfortable it'll leave him/her wondering or even run away in fear and distress

So. Please put a dot right at the end of a sentence, don't put a whitespace after the last word. When you're making a list like you do in the Masteries chapter please put commas(,) between the items and "and" between the last two items.becomesI recommend to explain why they help your game too, instead of saying that the other masteries don't do anything at all which I doubt.

There are probably more points like this but I only looked at the language use now. I guess others have already pointed out some.

Minor nitpicks(grammar and spelling):

If your guide gets more readable I'm sure it'll look a lot better instantly!

About the skills i made them like that because as i said 2-3 times in the guide it depends on your opponents :) about the grammar/punctuation/flow Why not keep it simple?this way ANYONE can have a quick look into the guide and see what is going on .

ummm.

yes max phoenix first. turtle second. actually bear at level 4 is okay. with a phoenix max your jungle clear is crazy fast so you will probably hit 4 about the same time the other jungle is thinking about ganking.

your items are pretty close to what i run. i don't think mobi boots are completely necessary and unlike what arrow/you said you should not rush them. rush your golem. gold generation more important than ganks...especially cause even with mobi boots what can you do? you won't do much damage so all you can contribute to a gank is your bear stun. and the cooldowns early are not good on it so unless you have double buff and your laner has good early damage you are wasting time and money by rushing it.

what is a 'gang'? do you mean 'gank'?

unless you have hacked LoL your bot lane won't always be next to the red buff.

easy to counter? you mean counter his ganks? cause other than that not really and if you are worried about hard cc from the enemy bring flash and there is your gap closer. personally i avoid hard cc i just take a jungle path that puts me behind the enemy versus coming from the side. leaves less chance for them to get away. he is an excellent counter jungler. if he farms enough, which with phoenix max you can farm nearly as much if not more than your lanes, he can peke teams by destroying towers without minions.

change skill order cause impossible.

umm other than that while you do provide some tips that i too would give...it isn't well written. grammar/punctuation/flow. on par with say a 14 year old? but maybe you are 14 so than i guess that makes sense.

#lata

That skill order is impossible.

Oops, didn't vote. But yeah just too many errors makes me wonder if you're even lvl 30 yet :/

I don't play udyr but I was under the impression that leveling both phoenix and tiger is inefficient. Idk doe. Also, you can't max a skill at level 8 so....kinda makes me wonder how legit this guide really is. You don't take your bear stance until 4? There is a lot wrong with your skill order.

Idk why you want to go so far into utility...udyr has the potential to dish out exceptional early game damage if you put 9 points into offense, as well as flat AD marks over ArPen. In defense you should be taking Block and Unyielding as you are an excellent duelist.

Frozen Mallet is redundant if you have trinity, you shouldn't have a problem sticking to people with just trinity+bear+red buff.

You offer no alternative item choices. Locket? Sunfire? BotRK? pls.

Really fun guide, simple but effective. MOBILITY BOOTS at 1st back is a MUST. I ' ve seen it even in diamond games and it works like a charm. I am w8ing for more high elo feedback :)