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You have all time full-hp and do quite some DMG.
The healing is even later-on not too bad.
I like it.
While this guide isn't good, Doran's start for junglers is not necessarily a bad start, and is primarily taken by people with high AD ratios who can level 2 gank very effectively (Xin Zhao, Lee Sin, Riven). A failed gank, however, does put them behind significantly.
IF HE WAS IN THIS GAME
I BET HE'd FEED A
THATS WHAT AP XIN WOULD DO
When ap xin zhao played ranked games
and got sent to bronze league.
he ks'd his own ADC
while mashing all his keys.
When ap xin zhao was in base
trying to backdoor
He got executed by the
ENEMY TOWER
WHAT WOULD AP XIN ZHAO DO
IF HE WAS IN THIS GAME
HE'D BUY
THATS WHAT AP XIN WOULD DO
WHEN XIN'S ENEMIES DIDNT FORFEIT YET
AT 30 MINUTES LONG
IT'S ONLY 'CAUSE THEY ARE WINNING IT
BY EIGHTY KILLS TO NONE
and when skarner came to chase him down,
He still took him on.
But AP XIN ZHAO just made him get le-gen-da-ryyyyy
So lets all open Windows
For the author of this guide;
AND WE'LL UNINSTALL LOL FOR HIM,
Cos that's what you really ought to do.
(Sorry, had to do it. Too tempting.)
Of course you will clear slower than people with
hmm, good point.
But i still in love with spirit of lizard DOT true damage, lolz
even if it is not the best, your build worth a try.
ROCK on Darkjellyfish
Dorans Blade HP more, lifesteal/life back on hit. and AD. Thats damn good. But you need team to help at first.
I'm not quite 100 percent agree with you
there is a controversy that machete is made into spirit of golem/lizard elder in the mid-game
and jungle farming would be way faster??
but anyway I have tried your build and it is going out crazy,
I didn't get a decent kill score but 38 assist and game ends at victory of 43-15 kill-death.
Of course you will clear slower than people with
Yay, finally someone who see what I see :D
I'm not quite 100 percent agree with you
there is a controversy that machete is made into spirit of golem/lizard elder in the mid-game
and jungle farming would be way faster??
but anyway I have tried your build and it is going out crazy,
I didn't get a decent kill score but 38 assist and game ends at victory of 43-15 kill-death.
very well,I think this build is actually for a good sustain damage, not a one-hit kill.
regeneration is crazy at early game,outstanding tankiness, CD reduction is good for skill looping, and I think it will shine in every team fight.
I will give it a try, definitely.
Yay, finally someone who see what I see :D
Ok, I'm going to explain this to you very slowly. STOP. FACTORING. THE. W. INTO. YOUR. CALCULATIONS. It is simply a comparison between 5 pots and a doran's blade. You cannot factor in the w with the doran's blade heals but not the 5 pots heals without unbalancing the equation.
Consider W as a variable representing his W's passive.
5 pots = 750 health.
Doran's blade with 52 auto-attacks = 260 health
Xin's passive W on 52 auto attacks (or 17 sets of 3 as you say) = about 45*17 = 765 health.
Pots + W > Doran's blade + W.
Simplify. You get Pots > Doran's. End of ****ing story.
I'm writing the guide about Xin Zhao, so yes I will continue to factor W in.
If you like pots so much, go start pots. I include it in the comparison between machete pots and doran's blade. And of course, pots + W will heal way more than Doran's blade, but with Doran's blade you get 80 Health, 10 AD, and a really nice passive.
If I compare the health gained to another Xin Zhao without AP. At 52 Auto-attacks mark, the other Xin Zhao will have (17*26) = 442 additional health from W, plus pots that's 1192. So you are right, comparing to my 1020 health gained in the jungle a 0 AP Xin Zhao with potions would have higher sustain right after he uses the fifth pot. But on the other hand, my build's sustain lasts until the end of the game, while pots will all go out and you have a machete that doesn't really do anything in teamfights.
Actually, I have just run a traditional Solo jungle clear, and come out full health after the second smite on Red (without going back of course). After I got a hold on a video editting program I will post it right in the guide.
-.- If you dont start machete, go cloth, if not either, start boots, if not crystaline, if not. go die.
Clothes start would provide some good stats in early team fights so it could work too I guess, but it does not offer any damage to the creeps and would make my clear time sluggish. Also, if you question the viability, just wait until I could post up a video.
regeneration is crazy at early game,outstanding tankiness, CD reduction is good for skill looping, and I think it will shine in every team fight.
I will give it a try, definitely.