Anytime man... FYI, AP Teemo is being worked on... Its happening in small chunks, buts it being worked on

I know they love me really

And thanks for first positive comment XD

Example you know they just jealous right lol

Nah man. I lane with a buddy who does a similar build and in my humble opinion I think it works. We lane together (me being a Sona) and that spear hits them good. Props for your guide man. Great job!

Wow a whole bunch of comments about how my tank/dps build is a bit out of the ordinary and the first person to vote me down doesn't leave a comment
How annoying

I dont see any Panth build that does run on mana. I dont use mana in my build, but than again I play more of an OT/DPS build

I suppose it could work to a degree
But this build runs no mana on it
And those calculations I did were already doubled :P

I never claimed this to be a dps build
Its a tank/dps build

And Heartseeker is really quite bad, there is no mana in this build apart from Banshee's Veil but that allows you to keep up your Spear Shot spam

AP Sivir was silly (Thank goodness its no longer possible) but the whole point of this build is to be able to harass and kill off champions whilst still maintaining a very strong level of tankiness.
You may complain that this build requires you to just spam Spear Shot... Well you're right
It is a very effective way to play Pantheon.

And I've used all those builds however this one doesn't really as much on damage as more being viable late game which is what people complain about. As it is Pantheon's early game is easy damage items or not so the damage items are purchased early on to highlight this strength before moving onto a tougher build
Think of it as a tank WW build. The strength is still there you can just maintain it for longer time

I don't expect many people to understand why this build works simply because it doesn't spam damage
But its meant to be balanced better


And yes the Masteries are strange I accept that but it gives you (with the runes) 200 extra starting health to make, extra attack speed and armour penetration is obvious but switching the stuff for better regen is possible if you really want

OK to put in pics. (icon=Spear Shot size=30) But you use [ ] instead of ( )

Also you have to remember that HsS will do double dmg to champs, and I think can be used while moving. That is why I said HsS>Aegis. And my combo is Aegis>HsS>Spear Shot (if HsH and auto-attack doesnt kill the target.

I get that a longer stun is good to make sure that they take the full HsS, but you are running Frozen Mallet, which HsS is effected by since it counts as physical dmg, AND Frozen Mallet says physical attacks slow the target. That alone means that the 1 sec stun from rank 1 Aegis will be more than enough. If you HsS after Aegis, they will be slowed for the full duration of HsS. Meaning they take all the double dmg, and since that happens, they will get below that 35% and you will be critting them every attack afterwards.

1 skill champion idea. Remind me of AP sivir. Dont use HSS hmmm ok for DPS champ as you say but, you dont build him as a dps champ at all...
Your AS is equal to 1 item. 40% AS is not enaugh to count him as dps. Checking this guide i feel like i would be forced to stay in mid range just spamming spear and nothing else. But in that way i would invest more in AD.
Also you use some odd Mastery setup o_O

"b)Leveled Spear Shot first."
oh cmooon :P
http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/pantheon-ghost-of-stanpar-22021
http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/pantheon-the-warrior-of-sparta-23564
You looked in wrong place i think :P

I don't use HSS because it isn't as good as Spear Shot
Read the reasoning
Lets say I have 100 damage
For each level of HSS this is how much damage I do:
1: ( 4 + (36%*100)) * 5 attacks = 40 * 5 = 200
2: ( 6 + (44%*100)) * 5 = 50 * 5 = 250
3: ( 8 + (52%*100)) * 5 = 60 * 5 = 300
4: (10 + (60%*100)) * 5 = 70 * 5 = 350
5: (12 + (68%*100)) * 5 = 80 * 5 = 400

For Spear Shot
1: (30 + (100%*100))= 130
2: (40 + (115%*100))= 155
3: (50 + (130%*100))= 180
4: (60 + (145%*100))= 205
5: (70 + (160%*100))= 230

Note that Spear shot does more than half the damage HSS does whilst being ranged, much cheaper, much shorter cooldown and without keeping you stationary AND does not require your opponent to stay inside the cone to continue to take damage

The reason I level up Aegis? It does more damage and stuns for longer whilst being a smaller mana drain than HSS so I can auto-attack during that time until my spear shot cools down so I can use it again

With a spear shot, Aegis, HSS combo you drain yourself clean very quickly and aren't guaranteed a kill because they aren't stunned for long and you can't level up your spear too early or lose the potency of HSS
In-game its much better to get Spear Shot leveled

On a side note how did you put HSS and Aegis pictures into your post? I don't know how to do that yet

You are building AD, but you only get one point in ? That makes no sence to me. I mean if you are going AD wouldnt you want to swtich your W and E around. With the AD and ArP, you only need one rank of . That one second is more than enough to get HsS off. And if they run, Speas shot can handle that. You also run Frozen Mallet and Ghostblade, so why not max out the phsyical dmg skills over the AP skill. Of course you get your ult when its up, but i just dont see why you dont max the skills that scale with AD