Awesome guide :)

i like your guide but i think there is a problem in the skillsequence. you cant take your last piont into her e at level 8...

Works out pretty good, finally a viable way of playing her! :D

Works out pretty good, finally a viable way of playing her! :D

A good balance of tanky and damage

I'm very sad to see errors in this guide. Please be aware of the difference between armor penetration and armor reduction so I'll just copy paste from here


"The order of effects are as follows:

1. Flat Reduction
2. Percentage Reduction
3. Percentage Penetration
4. Flat Penetration

Your armor value is recalculated based on those rules if its base changes while the debuffs are present. All percentage effects stack multiplicatively.


Penetration can only bring the mitigation stat to 0, Reduction can go beyond. Negative mitigation gives you a damage amp equal to the damage reduction you would have gained if you had positive mitigation with the same magnitude.


Armor Penetration is a buff that lets a single champion do more damage to anyone with armor.
Armor Reduction is a debuff that makes a single champion take more damage from physical damage."

This means that NO, Jarvan is NOT going to take 'more damage' from only armor penetration. Building a black cleaver is still useful of course, though.

Glad to see the top lane Quinn getting some love. One little thing. Did see you said you take armour pen quints to drop them to negative armour early game but this doesn't work. Armour pen stops when they get to 0 armour do you're wasting some. It's armour reduction that can drop them below 0 for bonus damage (although it's viturally impossible since reduction is added first before pen anyway). I do like quinn as adc with her clean up ult potential and e as escape but I also like her as a bruiser a lot (with this or very similar build).

I never was a big fan of Quinn ADC then it occurred to me... Wait, she can be played top. I have been experimenting with bunch of my own builds but this was everything, and more. I just bullied this voli to hell with your build. Thanks alot!

I never was a big fan of Quinn ADC then it occurred to me... Wait, she can be played top. I have been experimenting with bunch of my own builds but this was everything, and more. I just bullied this voli to hell with your build. Thanks alot!

Been trying to play Quinn as ADC for a while now, not sure if I'm just not a good ADC, but playing her Top felt much better, and I did better as her top than I've ever done with ADC... Good build :)

I was expecting this to be bad, just saying. But to be up against many people top who would normally counter the ADC version of Quinn and then wreck them due to more bulkiness and poke was extraordinary. +1

An idea maybe would to display scores on it to show proof that the build really works otherwise people like I was may be skeptical.

:] im glad it was helpfull. This is my first guide even tho iv used mobafire for a while. I had some fun making it and its good to here it was usefull even if only to a few people

-Alex ( thats my real name btw)