More burst damage from Vorpal blade and his passive, although I assume Armor Penetration would be better in some circumstances. It was also to benefit more from Sunfire Capes but it really didn't matter much.

I forgot to ask one last question yesterday (I can be so forgetful XD).

Why do you use magic pen marks? I would assume that health would be better (dunno for sure though, I'm still building my tank rune page), but you have to take magic pen for a reason: so why do you?

Rylai's Crystal Scepter, that's worlds first potential xD

I should Archive it for several reasons, I've lost my edge for a second and I don't know wtf I'm doing.

As for Exhaust I think it's viable, Teleport was overkill anyway and you don't always need Fortify.

Oh, I forgot to ask: what are your thoughts on exhaust?

I personally love it, it's an amazing slow and it allows me to shut down auto-attacking carries better. I run ghost and exhaust most games for summoner spells (I love ghost for the same reasons you mentioned).

That's my thoughts on it, but I was wondering what you thought since you didn't cover it in your guide.

EDIT: I also forgot to ask if you have ever tried Rylai's over Frozen Mallet? You lose 200 HP but you get AP which modifies the damage reduction on Feint and Stand United as well as giving you a slight damage boost to Ki Strike and Vorpal Blade. I haven't got to really test it out, but I think there is potential there.

Thoughts?

Ok, it's WIP now I guess.

Very good guide +1. Good and in depth.

Just few quick things to note. In the latest patch, Sunfire dots no longer stack because the passive is now unique (hence, you don't want to get two. I still find one to be really good for farming though). I think Randuin's Omen is now kind of meh, after the nerf (I never really used it anyway, but...). I'm sure you just haven't got a chance to update, so I'm just reminding you/letting you know if you didn't already, I know we all have a life outside of LoL :) (well...maybe :P).

Oh, and you mispelled "Finishing" in the last part of your guide (not trying to be a butthead, just letting you know).

Anyway, once again, good guide and good luck out there, the fields of justice are a cruel and unforgiving place. Especially for tanks in PUGs :(.

You're right, that was rude of me..
I mean I couldn't possibly be working on something else.


Thanks for being honest thou.

-1 for not keeping up with patches

I find it's best to just get 2 Sunfires after Aegis and Mercury's Treads, then it's usually just Force of Nature or Banshee's Veil depending on the team, and other spesifics like Thornmail or Frozen Mallet.

While in Randuin's Case, I find it best to get some form of Magic Resist and then focus more on health.

Good build +1

But to clarify on your item sequence. Do you usually go for sunfire, thornmail, and mallet in most games?

Ever considered reading my last comment?

... well nobody likes a smart*** so I'm just going to say:

yes, yes I have.

Ever considered adding Aegis of the Legion to your core build? It's very strong, especially early.