A valid point. I'll be sure to test the Sunfire Aegis out as well as a few other items and update this ASAP. Thanks for the advice once again.

First of all, stacking armor without any health is useless. You need both defensive stats to be effective. Besides that, it is quite cost efficient and the damage makes sure you won't be ignored.

Oh and don't bother with recordings/stats and stuff. You probably get away with it because you're playing with and against bad players, but once you face good enemies, they will punish you.

sf is cost-effective and helps splitpushing. also works kinda good with you q.

I'll be sure to try a Sunfire Aegis out next, but I question it. What possible use could it have as opposed to the other items listed, I wonder?

Also, Soraka top is reliable when played right. I can try to get a recording of a game or two to show how effective it can be.

no, not if you follow my awesome veigar jungle-how to survive the first camp guide:
step 1: ask for a smiteless blue
step 2: smite the blue when it is low

It is as simple as this: If you want an early defensive item, Sunfire Aegis is the way to go. Besides that, soraka top is as viable as veigar jungle, who probably dies at his first camp.

While I see your point, if you don't rush these two quintessential items first, you wont be able to make it to later ingame. Your damage output might be low starting out, but you are able to reduce the opponents health to the point where they're an easy kill with the aid of your jungler. Even if the opponent wins the trades too, you always have sustain by your side.



I'm not sure if that's true. Extra Mana + CDR and a better unique passive with a Frozen Heart all for subtracting 5 armor from a Thornmail sounds better and has worked out much nicer ingame for me. If you could explain your reasoning, that would be great.

Rushing FH and spirit visage will leave you with no damage whatsoever, so you won't be able to trade at all.

Frozen heart is just as bad for a first item. WTF?

Updated a few things in the guide, the main focus of which was replacing Thornmail with Frozen Heart as a core item instead.

Minor changes were made too as well as a few fixed grammar errors. Thanks for the advice everyone.

Thornmail first item huehuehue

All constructive criticism is appreciated and I can agree on certain points between both of you.

All I ask is that people at the very least try this out before upvoting/downvoting it. Don't knock it til you try it.