Alright I will. I like the debate that we have had and although u build her as an offtank, there are other champs that fill the roleb better, gragas and health scaling is unique on sej so I figure using that to my advantage is the way to go. But ur build is definitely viable. Thanks for complimenting my layout! I spent over an hour alone making it look nice. Hopefully you will check out my gangplank guide whenever that comes out

http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/i-bet-you-can-squeal-like-a-pig-weeeeeeee-179745

You can check out my build if you want.

How much of a difference does an additional few hundred hps really going to make for you in a team fight vs how I build? You might survive a sec or two longer but does that really make that big of a difference...in my opinion no.

Personally being straight up TANK vs. Off-TANK limits you on what you can do to a team fight and who you really can harass and take down. I wouldn't be afraid of a TANK Sej because I know she can't really hurt me but I would be afraid of a Off-Tank/Carry Sej who can still take lots of damage but can also dish it out quickly.

I havent found any champ late game that can take Sej down 1v1 even if it is another AP carry.

I only choose thornamil to troll those DPS champs and that is WAY late in the game and the majority of the time the team surrenders before it gets to that point.

Anyways you are right it is a difference in opinion and playstyle maybe one day we will meet up on the battlefield and see which build is better :)

Keep up the work on the build pretty good layout and informative.

Alright, as for Rylai's, I've found that this is an extreme late game item in which case it isnt part of the core build, and is more unique to how long the game lasts. The thing is, you build her a as straight up carry, much like someone would build Gragas, I build her as a TANK.

Thats the bottom line. You play her differently, but there are much better AP carries that would destroy Sejauni in a straight nuke fest, and that's not the way Sejauni was created to be played- as a nuke. She is a tank, but with added benefits to where you can get tanky up to the point where you can switch to carry sejauni, its just that theres only so much you can do with lackluster AP scaling on her abilities, and use her northern winds as the main damage output simply because of the low AP scaling on everything else. You would have me convinced if she had higher AP scaling, but the simple fact of the matter is that she doesn't, which makes her a displaced carry that ultimately becomes tanky DPS.

So yes, continue to build her as a nuke until you realize that building a thornmail/force of nature last is only going to hurt you more that help you

Due to my lack of time I havent been able to continue fixing this guide. The s imple fact of the matter is we see things on,this champ differently, and I havent been able to put in more things defending my reasons for certain things. As for two warmogs I have found that building 2 can almost always fit in when I lane because I usually pick up my second warmogs and it lasts me through mid game. Allow me another day to respond as im doing this from my phone and its rather annoying typing. I will also say that I wanted to add in a situational items section but alas im also writing a gangplank guide thay is much easier and more fun for me to make as I have game footage but I digress

"Can't kill single targets easily"

What do you mean she can't kill single targets easily? She is by far one of the most OP champs in the game I think you build/play her wrong. Her Q, W, E combo shreds everyone especially if you have magic pen rune and or equipment on.

I personally use masteries that are 9/21/0. Why would waste some of your good mastery points in defense alone is beyond me.

Also why would you double up on Warmogs? I tested this out in a CO-OP match and found no benefit in it consider she can already take so much damage. I build 1 Warmogs, Sorc shoes, Rod of Ages, Frozen Heart, Deathcap, and my last item is either Rylia's or Thornmail depending on the situation.

If I wanted Rylai's the only real benefit would extra AP and health. Without it if I used thornmail I still walk around with 4K health not counting potions and nearly 400 AP. The amount of damage I do with my health and AP on plus my masteries make me a monster. All the chars you appear to be afraid of ie GP and Tyrn become useless. Even early game you can harass these chars so much they can't lane/farm against you very easily. I'd rethink your build and setup if I were you especially if you wanted to be an overall beast.

As far as her being a carry she is by far one of the best carries I've seen in all the games I've played.