thank you :) this guide took me 3-4 days to post about a week or so to iron out and I'm pretty happy with it. especially not having an ounce of experience with this kinda stuff and I really wanted to do this one since Udyr was my first dedicated champ I still play him a lot hes one of the best junglers around hasn't been made irrelevant yet so I'm happy with this :)

Nicely written +1

yeah np, i can get a solo top section going if you'd like i thought it was more situational but if you think you could benefit from it id be happy to oblige. though it is not impossible to jungle without the exact runes (especially with the twice over changed jungle) but you will find a significant decrease in performance, a lot of baseing and rushed decision making can cause a lot of problems for a jungler. but jungleing is fun pretty much the only thing i like to do really, and if you think so too then runes or no you should do what you like :)

Great guide!

One question though, could you add a section explaining how to use your SoloTop build (If you already have one sorry for not noticing it.). I'm kinda curious on how to use a phoenix stance build for laning and your guide is the only one that has that option. So I would like your opinion on how to go about doing it, because I think it would be a nice change from tiger stance and it would throw off your opponents a couple of times.

I've never tried jungling and my friend tells me you want to wait until you have all the runes and/or reach level 30. So I have just been laning with him and have been doing pretty well.

Thanks for any help you can provide to my question

Specolar

thanks for the great suggestion guys I'll look into them asap.

+1

my comments are these:

Do not take attack speed marks, your attack speed and clear time is so fast these are just pointless. The rest of your runes look fine, just take 9 desolation marks.

I suggest buying wriggles before mercurys treads, as you already have a speed buff and you need that fast clear time to be ganking more in lanes. Wriggles is essential, and the earlier you get free wards, the less your lanes will be ganked.

Spirit visage. Why? I would suggest buying wits end instead, it is an amazing item and almost every jungle udyr I see buys it for its pure amazingness.

I do not understand why you buy frozen mallet so late, because the slow does not help you win team fights. Either buy it mid game, or don't buy it at all. If it is health/tankiness you are going for and that's why you buy it, buy a warmogs instead. Udyrs damage does not even need more attack damage, buying a warmogs is sometimes a very wise choice.

And thats all I have to say! Good luck!

Even though I build Udyr differently, the guide and builds look good. Thank you.

Good start!

overall this guide has some good coding and text. Think you should add another optional items section. Items can include like wits end. Quite good nowadays. Liked how you mentioned other runes and put some good explanation and thought into it. Talk about counterjungling.

Keep up the good work!

In my "Main" build the only reason I get a point in it is to survive certain situational plays like escaping or taking tower hits. but it seamed reasonable with the "Alt" build since you wont be having support heals. even with wriggle's life steal you would still be baseing after a big fight or risk getting caught in your jungle. Thanks for your suggestion!