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Jungling with Rammus: Bad Idea or Good?

Creator: MakoSt0rM May 27, 2011 10:54pm
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I've been playing a TON of Corki lately, and the last couple games I had with him ended pretty badly. I got harassing down pretty well, but then Vayne's gank buddy comes out and kills me, and I die like a n00b
(Oh, how I HATE Vayne).

Anyway, I'll return to Reginald's build later, but right now I've decided to pick up the other champion I have a complimentary skin for: Rammus.

I saw a youtube video on how to jungle with Rammus, and it started out well,(Cloth Armor + 5 HPots, kill Ancient Golem, kill wraiths, etc.) but the build was kinda weak.

I was wondering if Thornmail would be a good choice. It deals damage back, and Rammus gains damage from additional armor. Randuin's omen sounds nice as well. I normally suck with tank Champs , but I LOVE ganking, (who doesn't?) and I've seen Jungle Rammus players carry games very well in the past. Any suggestions on how to tank in general would also be greatly appreciated, since I mainly focus on DPS, Corki being my main.
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well first off, you shouldn't be carrying with rammus, let your carries get the kills x_x

second, check here for a great jungle rammus build and guide from a top ELO player.

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Rammus in the jungle is pretty viable. He has gank opportunities up almost constantly with powerball and taunt. I personally don't think he is that good in the lane either, so I would definitely play him in the jungle
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Rammus lane is sogood too.

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well first off, you shouldn't be carrying with rammus, let your carries get the kills x_x

second, check here for a great jungle rammus build and guide from a top ELO player.

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Top ELO? Sounds awesome! Love Solomid.net. On an unrelated not, when carrying with Corki, should I play more defensively or aggressive? I don't have Flash yet, and when I solo mid, Vayne or Ashe (I'll be VERY glad once this rotation is over...) always spam their ultimate or call a gank on me by Lvl.8 I do't normally carry, so the transition from support DPS to carry has been a bit rough, though I've had my fair share of great games
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I listened to your video, and noticed some things:

1. Tanks aren't supposed to deal damage, you said Corki almost deals as much damage as a tank o-o.
2. Corki is not survivable by nature.
3. Nunu doesn't suck late game.

And how you play depends on the game, if you are getting shut down easily you might need to stay back, if not try to harass as much as possible.

It just takes practice.

Also, I notice how much you say this build is really amazing, this that this that.

Regardless of how good the build is, you can still do well with a not-so-great build. I mean, don't get me wrong, build plays a good part in it. But it's something like this:

20% build 30% team 50% skill

you can have a bad team and/or bad build and still do well and possibly carry and win. Although his build is good, part of you doing well is also because of Corki being Corki, and how you play.

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2. Corki is not survivable by nature.
3. Nunu doesn't suck late game.

20% build 30% team 50% skill

2. He is.
3. Nunu isn't bad, but he's bordering on it. He's really only useful for his constant slows and his steroid for the carry.

It's more like 35% build and 65% skill, for all ppl on your team. Which means that each person makes up a 20% of the team's chance to win.
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Searz wrote:


2. He is.


How? Without flash and ghost, what if valk is on cooldown? You can get shut down very easily.

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Searz wrote:

3. Nunu isn't bad, but he's bordering on it. He's really only useful for his constant slows and his steroid for the carry.

Nunu is, singlehandedly, the best counter-jungler in the game and is an extraordinary counter to tanky DPS (because they won't be able to reach your carry). Not to mention that his Blood Boil is basically the best carry steroid in the game.

I wouldn't call him "not bad" - that's a bit of an understatement.


How? Without flash and ghost, what if valk is on cooldown? You can get shut down very easily.

Corki naturally pokes from a long range and saves Valk/Flash/Ghost for those troublesome scenarios. I wouldn't call him naturally durable but when you consider that he doesn't need to play as close up as Miss Fortune or Ashe, he's a lot more resilient in a fight as well as in the lane.
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@OP: Jungle Rammus is fine but one major downside is that he's INCREDIBLY easy for the enemy to counter-jungle. He's not particularly fast and basically has no way to invade reliably, nor to fight an enemy jungler if he is invaded. The only thing he has going for him are his ganks - which are pretty scary.
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