Magic Pen runes? 0.0

[quote=KyleeRayne]Questions: 1. Why are AP/level quints bad? e.e 2. What should I replace them with? o.0 3. What about CDR/level? (they're really friggin' spendy tho =_=)[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla]I ALWAYS run 9x [[Greater Mark of Insight]] + 1 [[Greater Quintessence of Insight]] to get that 10 magic pen from runes, so that i have 30 with sorc shoes, and people who don't get MR are taking true damage. [quote=KyleeRayne] Questions: 1. Why are AP/level quints bad? e.e 2. What should I replace them with? o.0 3. What about CDR/level? (they're really friggin' spendy tho =_=) [/quote] 1.AP Level quints give 7 ap @ level 18, and flat AP give 5 ap at level 1. 2.Flat AP quints. 3.CDR/Level are good, but it really depends on the champion as to exactly how much use you'll get out of them. In general, when using CDR runes though, it's best to stop at either a 1 or a 6 (i.e. 11% or 16%) so you aren't wasting runes cause you're over 40%.[/quote]

[quote=Gavranko]It's actually quite simple,mate. 1.AP/level quints are not bad,but have a weakness,and that's that if people take a spirit visage+banshee's veil they already take 1/2 the damage if you don't have magic pen. runes.Therefore,magic pen. PWNS ap in small doses(ofc you're gonna need to stack ap on casters) 2.Magic pen. runes,I explained in the 1. question. 3.CDR/level is good for certain champs,and it's worth getting.I'm no expert on AP carries,I'm an AD man myself,so you'd better ask someone else what champions need CDR/lvl. +rep if it's not too much to ask Temzilla explained it better than me,but mine is more detailed/more steps,so I'd suppose it's worth reading xD[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=Gavranko] It's actually quite simple,mate. 1.AP/level quints are not bad,but have a weakness,and that's that if people take a spirit visage+banshee's veil they already take 1/2 the damage if you don't have magic pen. runes.Therefore,magic pen. PWNS ap in small doses(ofc you're gonna need to stack ap on casters) 2.Magic pen. runes,I explained in the 1. question. 3.CDR/level is good for certain champs,and it's worth getting.I'm no expert on AP carries,I'm an AD man myself,so you'd better ask someone else what champions need CDR/lvl. +rep if it's not too much to ask Temzilla explained it better than me,but mine is more detailed/more steps,so I'd suppose it's worth reading xD [/quote] AP/Level is fundamentally bad because you don't get the benefit of it until level 11.[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=KyleeRayne] 1. Why are AP/level quints bad? e.e 2. What should I replace them with? o.0 3. What about CDR/level? (they're really friggin' spendy tho =_=)[/quote] 1. They break even way too late. (what Temzilla said) 2. Flat AP quints ofc. 3. CDR/lvl glyphs are pretty decent, but don't bother with the CDR/lvl quints or any CDR quints for that matter. CDR is just not strong enough compared to other stats in quintessences.[/quote]

[quote=Dotter]My caster runeset is like this: 9x [[Greater mark of insight]] 9x [[Greater seal of replenishment]] or [[Greater seal of vitality]] 9x [[Greater glyph of potency]] or [[greater glyph of focus]] or [[Greater glyph of force]] 3x [[Greater quintessence of potency]][/quote]

[quote=Hamduden][quote=Dotter] My caster runeset is like this: 9x [[Greater mark of insight]] 9x [[Greater seal of replenishment]] 9x [[Greater glyph of force]] or [[greater glyph of focus]] 3x [[Greater quintessence of potency]] [/quote] ^this. (thanks to Searz)[/quote]