[EUW] Joxuu's ranked support/adc/jungle thread.

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=Thalia Kael] [quote=GrandmasterD] [quote=Thalia Kael] I'm telling you she's ridiculously strong Great early game Great late game Great mid game Great laning Great roaming Great CSing all moments in the game Great dueling Great Bursting Great Sustained DMG Great AoE Great Single Target Great CC Not even squishy if built properly Best taunt in the game Can handle getting ganked very well Can handle having a gank very well Few weak matchups Many strong matchups [/quote] As a mid-lane main, I can tell you that she's shit. [/quote] [/quote] Not that you can't win lanes or win games with her or even carry. Just in considering the fact that about every other mid-laner beats her on multiple grounds makes her, relatively speaking, shit.[/quote]

[quote=Thalia Kael]And half of the champions you named are dead the second Annie stuns them. Lots of the "higher burst " are completely stopped by any hard CC. Lots of them don't even have higher burst. Some like Zyra completely rely on skillshots and dodgeable spells for the burst. For example Zyra's initial burst is completely negative by a dash such as Quickdraw or flash. And I don't think you're taking into account Tibber's sustained damage or her E, even if it's just a few autos, in her DPS.[/quote]

[quote=Thalia Kael][quote=GrandmasterD] [quote=Thalia Kael] Because she isn't one of the meta's favored champions doesn't mean that she's shit or unviable. And I don't know why you say her burst is mediocre. In the late game anybody under 2500 health is getting instantly killed by her combo. If she's fed, you can push that to 3000 health. And her E is far from being useless. Let's say I'm dueling an ADC without my full combo. Let's also say I'm level 18 and have 400 ap. My E is doing 60+80 magic damage to him each time he autoattacks me and am block a good deal of his damage with the 60 bonus armor. If I have Zhonyas, that's quite a bit of armor. It also has great synergy with her passive. It makes charging up stacks easier and you can "pretend" you don't have your stun up by having 2-3 stacks and then (if you have 3) E+Q/W/R the enemy(ies). And her burst is so scary without being fed yet that against most mid laners the moment you hit lvl 6 you can zone them out because they know what's coming. If not against most mid laners you can just burst them and kill them. Another thing with her is that all of her spells are easy to hit and 2 of them deal instant damage. She will never go oom in lane because her Q refunds the mana cost when you use it to last hit. This is one of the reasons she's such a good cser. And later in the game your W will be 1 shotting full waves. I also forgot to mention that she's a good pusher with Tibbers. He deals decent damage to towers and she can use him to tank it for her team. But another thing that makes her stand apart from standard bursters is that she also deals huge sustained damage with her E, Tibbers, her low cd Q and medium cd W. When you consider the time that Tibbers is alive her ult doesn't have that long a cooldown either, considering how strong it is. She can also use Tibbers to kite, to block skillshots, to peel for her team, to scout, to block the enemy's path and all kinds of other things. Her passive is one of the best in the game. It's basicly a point-and-click AoE stun that can be used multiple times in a teamfight. [/quote] Additionally, I recommend you to read properly because I didn't call her unviable or complete shit. [/quote] I was referring to this[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=Thalia Kael] And half of the champions you named are dead the second Annie stuns them. Lots of the "higher burst " are completely stopped by any hard CC. Lots of them don't even have higher burst. Some like Zyra completely rely on skillshots and dodgeable spells for the burst. For example Zyra's initial burst is completely negative by a dash such as Quickdraw or flash. And I don't think you're taking into account Tibber's sustained damage or her E, even if it's just a few autos, in her DPS. [/quote] You have no clue what you're talking about and last time I checked, [[Annie]]'s Q is the only targeted spell she has, and it has limited range compared to most.[/quote]

[quote=Joxuu]He did the Vapora Dark's. Step 1. Kill lane opponent --> [[Darius]] Step 2. Kill mid lane --> [[Syndra]] Step 3. Finish with triple kill from jungler repeat. He got really feeded after few minor fights where he grabbed most, if not all of the kills. NOTE: He was top, not middle. Top against [[Darius]]. Imo: [[Annie]] doesn't stand a chance compared to current strong mid laners, but is OK pick. Still vialable against certain picks.[/quote]

[quote=Joxuu]Smurf @Gold III, playing with platinums tough. +37 LP per win.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]+37 O.o[/quote]

[quote=Joxuu]Hmm... I can verify my ELO from second account also ? (As long as the rank is earned by me of course ?)[/quote]

[quote=Joxuu]+39 :3 http://gyazo.com/c76b424249c5934876f38f8230fa02c1[/quote]

[quote=Joxuu]Incorrect password on my main account O.o[/quote]