THE EPIC SHOWDOWN OF A LIFETIME 2015

[quote=Vynertje]It definitely is, although I bet Vapora has much more experience in the matchup than I do + I suck as mid.[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod]Pretty sure Lulu not only poops on talon, you can also pretty much rush armor + hp items and just kill his tower with ranged AA's until he gains waveclear, from which point you harass him out of lane. Actually, I'm sure Lulu can win the matchup simply by boring you to death and taking your tower. [[teleport]] confirmed.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje][quote=FalseoGod]Pretty sure Lulu not only poops on talon, you can also pretty much rush armor + hp items and just kill his tower with ranged AA's until he gains waveclear, from which point you harass him out of lane. Actually, I'm sure Lulu can win the matchup simply by boring you to death and taking your tower. [[teleport]] confirmed.[/quote] Yeah generally double dorans -> seekers is freewin. I think talon has a slight window between 3-5 when Lulu doesn't have ult, but that only works when he can stay full hp in the first 2 levels (when lulu is strongest)[/quote]

[quote=Latest Legend]And here I was thinking I'd be the only one to see the Graves pick coming[/quote]

[quote=mastrer1000]alright, so what if we do draft pick?[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]What I always do with friends when we do 1v1 tourneys is: each player gets x amounts of bans in chat best of 5 blind pick Problem with draft pick is the counterpicking issue, purple side should never lose that[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod]Vapora knows what he has to work against. [[lulu]] is a very strong sololaner against a multitude of champs and can hold her ground steadily. He knows it's risky to play [[talon]] or [[katarina]] against it. I think draft is a terrible idea. It should be blind, they have an idea what both play and they have to handle it like big boys, instead of going over to their champ pool and pick what's best against whatever the other picked first.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]Agreed, arranged matchups is just going to be too hard as we have such strange champ pools and draft pick sucks in 1v1s.[/quote]

[quote=mastrer1000]ok, so how about we keep it at bo3, give everyone 3 bans(can be changed in between games) and do blind pick?[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]If vapora agrees, sure Though I'm in favour of BO5 so there's more room for P/B innovation[/quote]