Pantheon Top; Black Cleaver Rush?

[quote=ZeUnit]Due to the recent [[black cleaver]] change, I was wondering how you would go about itemizing Pantheon top now. Normally you would've built a [[brutalizer]] and sit on that whilst you built [[ravenous hydra]] and then some tank, and when the enemy team had built enough armour you would finish your [[black cleaver]]. However the item path changed. So, what do people recommend nowadays? Hydra -> Cleaver? Hydra -> Tank -> Cleaver? Phage -> Hydra -> Cleaver? Phage -> Hydra -> Tank -> Cleaver I know in the jungle a good choice is Cinderhulk into Cleaver. What are people's advice?[/quote]

[quote=Sir Wellington]I would probably get Hydra first, then Cleaver. You get more use out of Cleaver when your targets have higher armor, which isn't till mid-late game. Hydra also lets you farm FAST, so by rushing it you can get your other items faster.[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]Brutalizer isn't that bad an item even if it goes into youmuu's only, panth falls off megahard later anyway and youmuu's isnt the worst thing in the world for panth. If it makes it to the point where you need a more efficient item slot you can always sell it too.[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard]Probably [[tiamat]] -> [[the black cleaver]] versus anyone that's going to rush armor in lane (tanks and bruisers, maybe [[seeker's armguard]] is enough to justify it). [[the brutalizer]] should still be strong vs squishier champions that are going to build damage, like [[Riven]].[/quote]